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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-12-06, 12:04 pm

Before heading to Lincoln on Saturday Johnson gets a perfect opportunity to take a close up look at players in Tuesday evening EFL trophy game at Oldham.

IMO there where some very encouraging signs in Saturdays game against Wigan with lots of balls going into the goal area and also the glaring problems of scoring.

The striker problems wont be solved until January and even then it wont be easy, the wage bill will need reducing with obvious candidates heading out,assuming anyone wants them.

Wyke is our best and maybe only option right now so players like Geads become important to get the goals.

Saturdays result was disappointing yes but probably good, a 1-0 win may have papered over the cracks.

So Tuesday becomes important not for progress in the competition but for trying to find the selection that works.

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Post  Mackemneil on 2020-12-06, 1:32 pm

cyprussyd wrote:Before heading to Lincoln on Saturday Johnson gets a perfect opportunity to take a close up look at players in Tuesday evening EFL trophy game at Oldham.

IMO there where some very encouraging signs in Saturdays game against Wigan with lots of balls going into the goal area and also the glaring problems of scoring.

The striker problems wont be solved until January and even then it wont be easy, the wage bill will need reducing with obvious candidates heading out,assuming anyone wants them.

Wyke is our best and maybe only option right now so players like Geads become important to get the goals.

Saturdays result was disappointing yes but probably good, a 1-0 win may have papered over the cracks.

So Tuesday becomes important not for progress in the competition but for trying to find the selection that works.
....... and to see who has the spirit and passion for the fight!!

let us see what the likes of Kimpioka, Diamond, Embleton, Neil and the like can do, please!
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Post  gil t azell on 2020-12-06, 2:39 pm

Mackemneil wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:Before heading to Lincoln on Saturday Johnson gets a perfect opportunity to take a close up look at players in Tuesday evening EFL trophy game at Oldham.

IMO there where some very encouraging signs in Saturdays game against Wigan with lots of balls going into the goal area and also the glaring problems of scoring.

The striker problems wont be solved until January and even then it wont be easy, the wage bill will need reducing with obvious candidates heading out,assuming anyone wants them.

Wyke is our best and maybe only option right now so players like Geads become important to get the goals.

Saturdays result was disappointing yes but probably good, a 1-0 win may have papered over the cracks.

So Tuesday becomes important not for progress in the competition but for trying to find the selection that works.
....... and to see who has the spirit and passion for the fight!!

let us see what the likes of Kimpioka, Diamond, Embleton, Neil and the like can do, please!

I think Kimpi is still out but we have a Mitch Curry who has pace to burn. Get him in.
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Post  oldblackcat on 2020-12-06, 3:06 pm

Mackemneil wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:Before heading to Lincoln on Saturday Johnson gets a perfect opportunity to take a close up look at players in Tuesday evening EFL trophy game at Oldham.

IMO there where some very encouraging signs in Saturdays game against Wigan with lots of balls going into the goal area and also the glaring problems of scoring.

The striker problems wont be solved until January and even then it wont be easy, the wage bill will need reducing with obvious candidates heading out,assuming anyone wants them.

Wyke is our best and maybe only option right now so players like Geads become important to get the goals.

Saturdays result was disappointing yes but probably good, a 1-0 win may have papered over the cracks.

So Tuesday becomes important not for progress in the competition but for trying to find the selection that works.
....... and to see who has the spirit and passion for the fight!!

let us see what the likes of Kimpioka, Diamond, Embleton, Neil and the like can do, please!
With the new structure at the club we may well see more of the youngsters which is no bad thing...the way forward is a blend of youth and experience and players playing in their correct positions...the exact opposite of Parkinson's thoughts of how to succeed imo
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Post  oxfordshire on 2020-12-07, 10:09 am

Millwall fan reaction interesting.
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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-12-07, 2:41 pm

oxfordshire wrote:Millwall fan reaction interesting.
I would call it absolutely disgusting rather than interesting

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Post  gil t azell on 2020-12-07, 6:08 pm

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oxfordshire wrote:Millwall fan reaction interesting.
I would call it absolutely disgusting rather than interesting

I do not think booing was the correct way to deal with this however BLM is imo a political movement. FA rules states this is not allowed in football. 

My opinion for what it is worth is it should have been a symbolic one off at all football matches.

I think Millwall fans in general are a bad lot but reversing this would anybody care to hazard a guess what would have been said if there was a WLM movement?

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Post  Vincemac on 2020-12-07, 6:17 pm

[quote="gil t azell"][quote="Mackemneil"][quote="cyprussyd"]Before heading to Lincoln on Saturday Johnson gets a perfect opportunity to take a close up look at players in Tuesday evening EFL trophy game at Oldham.

IMO there where some very encouraging signs in Saturdays game against Wigan with lots of balls going into the goal area and also the glaring problems of scoring.

The striker problems wont be solved until January and even then it wont be easy, the wage bill will need reducing with obvious candidates heading out,assuming anyone wants them.

Wyke is our best and maybe only option right now so players like Geads become important to get the goals.

Saturdays result was disappointing yes but probably good, a 1-0 win may have papered over the cracks.

So Tuesday becomes important not for progress in the competition but for trying to find the selection that works.[/quote]
....... and to see who has the spirit and passion for the fight!!

let us see what the likes of Kimpioka, Diamond, Embleton, Neil and the like can do, please!

I think Kimpi is still out but we have a Mitch Curry who has pace to burn. Get him in.[/quote]
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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-12-07, 6:58 pm

No fool like an old fool, thats my streaming pass bought

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Post  Black Cat Kiwi on 2020-12-07, 7:56 pm

gil t azell wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:
oxfordshire wrote:Millwall fan reaction interesting.
I would call it absolutely disgusting rather than interesting

I do not think booing was the correct way to deal with this however BLM is imo a political movement. FA rules states this is not allowed in football. 

My opinion for what it is worth is it should have been a symbolic one off at all football matches.

I think Millwall fans in general are a bad lot but reversing this would anybody care to hazard a guess what would have been said if there was a WLM movement?

Before anybody questions me. No I am not a racist. I treat people of all colours and races the way I expect to be treat.
Gil, I think you've expressed your view very well & for the record from my observations I've NEVER seen you express anything in anyway less than that which you'd expect of others to treat yourself.

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Post  Black Cat Kiwi on 2020-12-07, 7:57 pm

cyprussyd wrote:No fool like an old fool, thats my streaming pass bought
Nah, Just fortunate to have the time to sit down & watch it in real time I love you

Did you get a discount?

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Post  Vincemac on 2020-12-07, 8:35 pm

[quote="Black Cat Kiwi"][quote="cyprussyd"]No fool like an old fool, thats my streaming pass bought[/quote]
Nah, Just fortunate to have the time to sit down & watch it in real time :heart:

Did you get a discount?[/quote]
I generally get a link to watch the matches
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Post  Black Cat Kiwi on 2020-12-07, 8:52 pm

Vincemac wrote:
Black Cat Kiwi wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:No fool like an old fool, thats my streaming pass bought
Nah, Just fortunate to have the time to sit down & watch it in real time I love you

Did you get a discount?
I generally get a link to watch the matches
I should probably do so but tbh the past few months have not allowed it & given what's been dished up play wise I've not bothered to go any further than the highlights online later in the day for free  Embarassed

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Post  Vincemac on 2020-12-07, 8:54 pm

Black Cat Kiwi wrote:
Vincemac wrote:
Black Cat Kiwi wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:No fool like an old fool, thats my streaming pass bought
Nah, Just fortunate to have the time to sit down & watch it in real time I love you

Did you get a discount?
I generally get a link to watch the matches
I should probably do so but tbh the past few months have not allowed it & given what's been dished up play wise I've not bothered to go any further than the highlights online later in the day for free  Embarassed
Unfortunately as you know 
You have not missed much
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Post  Black Cat Kiwi on 2020-12-07, 9:01 pm

Vincemac wrote:
Black Cat Kiwi wrote:
Vincemac wrote:
Black Cat Kiwi wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:No fool like an old fool, thats my streaming pass bought
Nah, Just fortunate to have the time to sit down & watch it in real time I love you

Did you get a discount?
I generally get a link to watch the matches
I should probably do so but tbh the past few months have not allowed it & given what's been dished up play wise I've not bothered to go any further than the highlights online later in the day for free  Embarassed
Unfortunately as you know 
You have not missed much
Sadly
The hardest part is the memory of being an EPL club with the associated players and craftmanship on display week in week out as opposed to what the club is now with a standard no better than the top amateurs I can see at the local park.

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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-12-08, 5:31 am

TBH I missed a game because I was losing interest but with the new set up and manager its team selection and style that interests me tonight, if PP was still here I doubt I would have bothered.

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Post  Vincemac on 2020-12-08, 9:24 am

It will give the  manager a chance to look at some fring players 
However the fring players are no worse than what we have been playing
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Post  Kipper on 2020-12-08, 10:07 am

gil t azell wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:
oxfordshire wrote:Millwall fan reaction interesting.
I would call it absolutely disgusting rather than interesting

I do not think booing was the correct way to deal with this however BLM is imo a political movement. FA rules states this is not allowed in football. 

My opinion for what it is worth is it should have been a symbolic one off at all football matches.

I think Millwall fans in general are a bad lot but reversing this would anybody care to hazard a guess what would have been said if there was a WLM movement?

Before anybody questions me. No I am not a racist. I treat people of all colours and races the way I expect to be treat.
I don't want to get into this too much as this is a football forum after all, but the argument is that BLM is a human rights issue not a political movement. The FA have allowed it under their own rules so it's not up to Millwall fans to be the arbiter. WLM is not something there is a desperate need for in our (or the USA's) society. Every life matters but there is a need to highlight injustice and prejudice of which there are many examples today and within football [Anybody see the Anton Ferdinand programme by the way?].

It's my view that there has long been a very unpleasant element to the Milwall fanbase and they have done themselves no favours. Perhaps they didn't mean to come across as racist but I'm afraid that a lot of the time perception is reality. Whilst taking a knee can be argued just to be a token now in contrast to when and how it was first used, Millwall fans have not shown their bright side by their reaction.
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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-12-08, 11:46 am

Kipper wrote:
gil t azell wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:
oxfordshire wrote:Millwall fan reaction interesting.
I would call it absolutely disgusting rather than interesting

I do not think booing was the correct way to deal with this however BLM is imo a political movement. FA rules states this is not allowed in football. 

My opinion for what it is worth is it should have been a symbolic one off at all football matches.

I think Millwall fans in general are a bad lot but reversing this would anybody care to hazard a guess what would have been said if there was a WLM movement?

Before anybody questions me. No I am not a racist. I treat people of all colours and races the way I expect to be treat.
I don't want to get into this too much as this is a football forum after all, but the argument is that BLM is a human rights issue not a political movement. The FA have allowed it under their own rules so it's not up to Millwall fans to be the arbiter. WLM is not something there is a desperate need for in our (or the USA's) society. Every life matters but there is a need to highlight injustice and prejudice of which there are many examples today and within football [Anybody see the Anton Ferdinand programme by the way?].

It's my view that there has long been a very unpleasant element to the Milwall fanbase and they have done themselves no favours. Perhaps they didn't mean to come across as racist but I'm afraid that a lot of the time perception is reality. Whilst taking a knee can be argued just to be a token now in contrast to when and how it was first used, Millwall fans have not shown their bright side by their reaction.
Very well said

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Post  barrowmackem on 2020-12-08, 2:33 pm

Have watched Oldham for 90 mins recently and my verdict is they are poor at the back but can score goals.

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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-12-08, 2:42 pm

Wyke is back tonight so I expect him to be leading the lone. Mcgeady needs game time so will also start but all eyes will be on Emberton   Diamond and maybe Neill

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Post  Vincemac on 2020-12-08, 3:54 pm

Yeah I would like to see those given a chance
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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-12-08, 5:13 pm

Sunderland: Patterson, McLaughlin, Sanderson, Wright, McFadzean, Power ©, Leadbitter, Scowen, Diamond, Maguire, Grigg.


Subs: Matthews, Flanagan, Dobson, Wyke, Embleton, Graham, McGeady.

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Post  Vincemac on 2020-12-08, 5:30 pm

Could be delayed
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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-12-08, 5:39 pm

Vincemac wrote:Could be delayed
now 6.20 KO

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