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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-07-30, 11:34 am

On Monday there is a club meeting with the safety manager together with other reps. from the BLC, RAWA, Senior Supporters Groups to discuss and have input into the club plans for introduction of restrictions Supporters will face watching football again at the SOL, while following the SGSA guidelines.

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Post  Vincemac on 2020-07-30, 12:04 pm

cyprussyd wrote:On Monday there is a club meeting with the safety manager together with other reps. from the BLC, RAWA, Senior Supporters Groups to discuss and have input into the club plans for introduction of restrictions Supporters will face watching football again at the SOL, while following the SGSA guidelines.
Looks like people may not be sitting in there preferred seats 
Social distance 
However I think it’s a good idea
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Post  Gordon Armstrong on 2020-07-30, 1:18 pm

Might you be there, Syd ?
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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-07-30, 2:29 pm

Gordon Armstrong wrote:Might you be there, Syd ?
No but Jim Gilling who is the branch liaison committee chair is also the sec for Coxhoe branch and he is there

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Post  Gordon Armstrong on 2020-07-30, 3:17 pm

I'm wondering about the possibility of someone (Jim ?) asking about renewals for the likes of Vince and I, who were denied the opportunity to renew ours due to the office being closed 'cos of Covid-19 and there being no alternative for disabled supporters Wink
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Post  Vincemac on 2020-07-30, 3:33 pm

[quote="Gordon Armstrong"][color=#0000ff]I'm wondering about the possibility of someone (Jim ?) asking about renewals for the likes of Vince and I, who were denied the opportunity to renew ours due to the office being closed 'cos of Covid-19 and there being no alternative for disabled supporters ;)[/color][/quote]
Phoned that number but no answer
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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-07-30, 4:32 pm

Gordon Armstrong wrote:I'm wondering about the possibility of someone (Jim ?) asking about renewals for the likes of Vince and I, who were denied the opportunity to renew ours due to the office being closed 'cos of Covid-19 and there being no alternative for disabled supporters Wink
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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-07-30, 5:07 pm

Jim Gilling[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Vince James I believe the club did state that those renewing that normally show paperwork or documents for this season only need not show documents as records on the data base would show already and let’s say as example bought 2 for 1 disabled + carer so they could still renew without showing the documents. I’ll check and verify this and anything you can do going forward

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Post  Vincemac on 2020-07-30, 5:14 pm

[quote="cyprussyd"][url=https://www.facebook.com/jim.gilling?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoxMDE1Njk1Njg2MjQ1NzEwMF8xMDE1Njk1NzQ0MDc2NzEwMA%3D%3D]Jim Gilling[/url][url=https://www.facebook.com/groups/98839892099/badge_member_list/?badge_type=ADMIN][size=11][img(12px,12px)][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] James[/url] I believe the club did state that those renewing that normally show paperwork or documents for this season only need not show documents as records on the data base would show already and let’s say as example bought 2 for 1 disabled + carer so they could still renew without showing the documents. I’ll check and verify this and anything you can do going forward[/quote]
Yeah Jim is looking into it 
I’ve seen or heard nothing about info on database to allow us to buy out two cards 
However I’m grateful for any help from Jim and I thank him
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Post  Vincemac on 2020-07-30, 5:15 pm

[quote="cyprussyd"][quote="Gordon Armstrong"][color=#0000ff]I'm wondering about the possibility of someone (Jim ?) asking about renewals for the likes of Vince and I, who were denied the opportunity to renew ours due to the office being closed 'cos of Covid-19 and there being no alternative for disabled supporters ;)[/color][/quote]
Vince has asked the question on Facebook[/quote]
He is very helpful
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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-07-30, 5:20 pm

Vincemac wrote:
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Gordon Armstrong wrote:I'm wondering about the possibility of someone (Jim ?) asking about renewals for the likes of Vince and I, who were denied the opportunity to renew ours due to the office being closed 'cos of Covid-19 and there being no alternative for disabled supporters Wink
Vince has asked the question on Facebook
He is very helpful
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Post  Vincemac on 2020-07-30, 5:22 pm

May I add I have not been able to contact  Safc 
Phone email tex any other way 
I have not written to them as I fear no response 
I’ll just have o wait and see if Jim can help 
Incedently I’m not the only one apparently 
Some at last nights meeting were in the same boat 
But what’re will be will be
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Post  Old Man! on 2020-07-30, 8:31 pm

I too have failed to have any contact with the club despite using the email address they published on the club site and Syd published on Sundermad. Given that  many people throughout the country have worked from home since Feb/March I cannot see why someone from SAFC  could have answered issues like Season cards etc. I had intended to give up my season card but my failure to make contact with the club resulted in me taking the view  that whoever made the decisions had little consideration for the paying fans. Maybe I'm being somewhat hard on them. My final decision was to let them renew my season card in that way that it has been done for the past 10 or so years. I'll probably get to see a few games when the stadium opens but my main consideration is my wife Marjorie who is very poorly and I will not leave her alone while I attend a football match. The social services did suggest that they would have someone call to see Marjorie a few times on match days but the virus put an end to that but I'll get in touch with them to see if they would help out a few times to allow me to get to see a game. 

Syd, thank you for this latest idea to keep the forum going, I know I haven't been the most prolific poster this year but I think you understood why. I di promise that I will improve my record....honest!!!!!!!!!
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Post  Vincemac on 2020-07-30, 8:49 pm

[quote="Old Man!"]I too have failed to have any contact with the club despite using the email address they published on the club site and Syd published on Sundermad. Given that  many people throughout the country have worked from home since Feb/March I cannot see why someone from SAFC  could have answered issues like Season cards etc. I had intended to give up my season card but my failure to make contact with the club resulted in me taking the view  that whoever made the decisions had little consideration for the paying fans. Maybe I'm being somewhat hard on them. My final decision was to let them renew my season card in that way that it has been done for the past 10 or so years. I'll probably get to see a few games when the stadium opens but my main consideration is my wife Marjorie who is very poorly and I will not leave her alone while I attend a football match. The social services did suggest that they would have someone call to see Marjorie a few times on match days but the virus put an end to that but I'll get in touch with them to see if they would help out a few times to allow me to get to see a game. 

Syd, thank you for this latest idea to keep the forum going, I know I haven't been the most prolific poster this year but I think you understood why. I di promise that I will improve my record....honest!!!!!!!!![/quote]



Hope the misses is keeping well as can be
I’ve been paying cash at the club office but it’s closed and no ther way to get cards
So unfortunately will miss out
Unless syds mate Jim can find a solution
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Post  Kipper on 2020-07-31, 12:43 pm

Spare a thought for the numpties like me who just delayed Very Happy
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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-07-31, 2:34 pm

Kipper wrote:Spare a thought for the numpties like me who just delayed Very Happy
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Post  Kipper on 2020-07-31, 3:16 pm

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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-07-31, 3:30 pm

Kipper wrote:
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Thank you for your kind thoughts.
The way the pandemic is growing I fear none of us will be there any time soon

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Post  Mackemneil on 2020-08-01, 3:30 pm

cyprussyd wrote:
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Kipper wrote:Spare a thought for the numpties like me who just delayed Very Happy
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Thank you for your kind thoughts.
The way the pandemic is growing I fear none of us will be there any time soon
..... and then Syd, those in league 1 who rely solely on gate income (especially when we visit) will want the season put on hold again!!
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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-08-01, 3:43 pm

Mackemneil wrote:
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Kipper wrote:Spare a thought for the numpties like me who just delayed Very Happy
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Thank you for your kind thoughts.
The way the pandemic is growing I fear none of us will be there any time soon
..... and then Syd, those in league 1 who rely solely on gate income (especially when we visit) will want the season put on hold again!!
And you could well be correct. 
This pandemic is like nothing I have known and many are trying to get back to normal, I'm not sure normal will ever be normal again.

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Post  Gordon Armstrong on 2020-08-05, 4:35 am

Worrappened at Monday's meeting, Sydney ?
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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-08-05, 10:49 am

Gordon Armstrong wrote:Worrappened at Monday's meeting, Sydney ?
Just asked Jim for the minutes of the meeting Gordon, will post them here when I get them


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Post  Gordon Armstrong on 2020-08-05, 12:24 pm

Thanks, Syd Wink
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Post  cyprussyd on 2020-08-06, 9:19 am

From Jim...

[ltr]On Monday I attended a meeting at the SOL these are the meeting notes. Any questions text me back for more clarification. .......

Sunderland AFC Branch Liaison Council

Notes of SAFC meeting with Supporters’ Groups to discuss returning to the stadium for live football, held on 3rd August 2020.

In attendance:

From SAFC operational Team: Steve Neil – Head of Safety & Security, Chris Waters – Supporter Liaison Officer, Lesley Campbell – Deputy Ticket Office Supervisor

James Woodcock - Dedicated Football Officer Northumbria Police

Tony – Alpha Security.

From Supporters’ Groups: Jim Gilling, Cath Reid and Phil Pollard (BLC), David Rose and Michael McAllister (RAWA), Steve Dean (SLG) Malcolm Bramley (SSG) Alan & Maureen Fenwick disabled supporters’ group

Steve Neill (SN) welcomed all to the meeting and thanked those present for attending at short notice, he explained he thought it important that the operational team at Sunderland worked with fan groups to prepare for live football returning to the stadium. This was the first of a number of meetings with fan groups, further updates will follow after future meetings.

It is important to remember that the return of supporters to the stadium is governed by both the Sports ground Safety Advisory (SGSA) group and local Safety advisory group (SAG), it is the local SAG who issue a safety certificate.

In looking at bringing fans back into the stadium, Steve and another member of the operational team, measured each seat in the stadium, as well as each stairwell, no mean task.

What will it look like?

• Aisle seats will not be used throughout the stadium, this is to ensure there is no ‘brush past’

• Looking to optimise number of supporters in each row, this will be by supporters (family/social) in a bubble. Max number in bubble is 6

• With seat width of 460mm (stadium seats are 450mm), two seats must be kept unoccupied between every allocated seat.

• A supporter sitting by themselves will use 5 seats, while a group of 6 will use 10 seats.

• To give an example, the East stand hold 9,085 supporters; using the highest level of 6 in a bubble, capacity would be 2,500 (28% of supporters)

• They then have to look at kiosks being open on the concourse, with a social distance of 1 metre, would bring the capacity to 894 in the East Stand. This is because the SGSA and SAG stipulate when considering the number of fans back into the stadium, safety officers must assume all fans will be on the concourse at any one given time. The SGSA stipulate the lowest number should be used to permit fans into the ground. The safety certificate would be granted on this provision.

• For each double turnstile, only one turnstile will be open.

• Temperature checks will be taken on approaching the turnstile, anyone who is identified as having a temperature will not be permitted entry to the stadium

• Stewards will be at each toilet entrance / exit, toilets will be 1 way

• A keep left system will be in place throughout the stadium

• It is unclear if face masks must be worn in the stadium, all clubs are waiting further guidance from Government

• The stadium will look completely different with lots of hand sanitiser stations throughout the stadium

• The club are looking at the possibility of an area adjacent to East / West stand being opened where drinks maybe purchased, again there would be a keep left and stewards directing supporters.


Questions:
Q: How will I be able to book a social bubble?
A: A trial will be put onto ticket master, you request your bubble by linking your loyalty numbers, this is the same way you purchased your Wembley tickets.

Q: How will the ticket office allocate seats?
A: Once everyone has input their bubble into ticket master, the ticket office will then allocate seats, row by row, ensuring safe distance is built in

Q: Will we be able to sit at our own seats?
A: No, the ticket office will, issue temporary seats,

Q: What about supporters with restricted mobility that have their seats with only a few steps up or down to their seats due to mobility issues.
A: At present nothing in system at Ticketmaster to detect those with mobility issues (disabled yes but not mobility). Club may review to see if on sheet for bubble application they could have tick box if any mobility issues, but not certain if this could be done.

Q: Will I receive a new season card?
A: No, you will receive an electronic ticket to your smart phone,

Q: I don’t have smart phone or an iphone
A: It is anticipated minimal supporters do not have a smart / iphone, separate arrangements will be made for these supporters

Q: Will the premier concourse be open?
A: Yes, the premier concourse will re-open during this period. It is important to optimise the number f supporters allowed back in the stadium

Q: Will away supporters be allowed in the stadium?
A: This is still under discussion, the club must wait guidance from both Government and the EFL, the EFL may advise visiting supporters must be allowed into the stadium, the decision may be with local SAG or each individual club, however, all agreed we would rather have home supporters only.

Q: What about away games will clubs allow Sunderland supporters to attend.
A: If EFL leave to clubs to decide then some clubs may not allow our supporters to attend keeping maximum capacity for home supporters. EFL decision is key to this decision.

Q: Reports in the paper suggest alcohol be drank in seating areas, is this something Sunderland will allow?
A: All options are currently being reviewed including pre-order of drinks, drinks brought to seats, all options are being reviewed

Key Message

This period is not normal, it is new to everyone, we all need to work together to be able to get back into the stadium. The club cannot guarantee areas of seating during this period

Stewards will be there to help, please remember they are working to safety guidelines

We as will all football grounds will be under close scrutiny by both the SGSA and SAG

It is recommended by SGSA that a spectator’s code of conduct is drawn up and issued to supporter, it is likely to include:

• At all time and in all parts of the ground, please observe social distancing and avoid close contact with others not in your bubble
• Arrive in good time to go though all the necessary entry procedures
• Be aware your temperature might be taken before entry
• Be aware should kiosks be open, all payments maybe contactless
• Remain in your seat or place at all times wherever possible
• If you do need to leave your seat, please wait for a time when the gangway is clear and always follow the signs indicating the way out
• If you are seated, when moving past other spectators to and from your seat, please avoid face to face contact
• Maintain good hand hygiene – use hand sanitisers and avoid touching you face, handles railings etc
• Please cover your mouth if you need to cough or sneeze
• Avoid hugs, high fives with people who are not in your bubble
• Take care when shouting, singing or celebrating

Going Forward

Steve and the operational team want to continue to work with supporter representatives, many of you may know Steve from his time as the Police Silver command at derby fixtures and may remember Steve worked closely with the BLC during these times.

If you have any questions, please forward an email to your branch secretary, branch secretaries should forward questions on to the operational team.

During the period of allocation of seats, Lesley and her team in the ticket office are going to be extremely busy, if we can have one route of questions into the operation team, it will help to support them and maybe something we can update all branches on,

Steve, Lesley and Chris will work closely with the BLC and other supporter groups, they all believe it is important that we maintain open dialogue and meet on a regular basis.

Please remember, with the best planning in the world, the Government could change things at short notice.




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Post  Gordon Armstrong on 2020-08-06, 11:18 am

Cheers Syd Wink

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