Liam kelly

Interesting - but shows where we are if he decides to go to Oxford (no offence!) instead of us. A young midfielder who can be a leader is one thing we need - but a goalscorer is top of my shopping list.

Hieronymus wrote:Interesting - but shows where we are if he decides to go to Oxford (no offence!) instead of us. A young midfielder who can be a leader is one thing we need - but a goalscorer is top of my shopping list.

But we have the guns, just havnt got the loaders.

wanderer wrote:

Hieronymus wrote:Interesting - but shows where we are if he decides to go to Oxford (no offence!) instead of us. A young midfielder who can be a leader is one thing we need - but a goalscorer is top of my shopping list.

But we have the guns, just havnt got the loaders.

We do - Watmore - cannot get a game at mo - McGeady - told he can leave - Maguire - obviously hacked off with something. And none of our goalscorers are anything near prolific enough anyway imo.

Hieronymus wrote:

wanderer wrote:

Hieronymus wrote:Interesting - but shows where we are if he decides to go to Oxford (no offence!) instead of us. A young midfielder who can be a leader is one thing we need - but a goalscorer is top of my shopping list.

But we have the guns, just havnt got the loaders.

We do - Watmore - cannot get a game at mo - McGeady - told he can leave - Maguire - obviously hacked off with something. And none of our goalscorers are anything near prolific enough anyway imo.

[th]Club[/th][th]Season[/th][th]League[/th][th]FA Cup[/th][th]League Cup[/th][th]Other[/th][th]Total [/th][th]Division[/th][th]Apps[/th][th]Goals[/th][th]Apps[/th][th]Goals[/th][th]Apps[/th][th]Goals[/th][th]Apps[/th][th]Goals[/th][th]Apps[/th][th]Goals [/th][th]Total[/th][th]99[/th][th]27[/th][th]5[/th][th]0[/th][th]3[/th][th]0[/th][th]2[/th][th]1[/th][th]109[/th][th]28 [/th][th]Total[/th][th]133[/th][th]53[/th][th]12[/th][th]8[/th][th]4[/th][th]2[/th][th]1[/th][th]2[/th][th]150[/th][th]65 [/th][th]Total[/th][th]27[/th][th]4[/th][th]0[/th][th]0[/th][th]2[/th][th]1[/th][th]4[/th][th]1[/th][th]33[/th][th]6 [/th][th]Career total[/th][th]337[/th][th]108[/th][th]22[/th][th]8[/th][th]12[/th][th]5[/th][th]7[/th][th]4[/th][th]378[/th][th]125 [/th]

Walsall	2008–09[71]	League One	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0
	2009–10[72]	League One	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
	2010–11[18]	League One	28	4	1	0	1	0	0	0	30	4
	2011–12[19]	League One	29	4	3	0	0	0	1[a]	0	33	4
	2012–13[24]	League One	41	19	1	0	2	0	1[a]	1	45	20
Brentford	2013–14[40]	League One	34	4	2	0	0	0	0	0	36	4
Milton Keynes Dons (loan)	2014–15[44]	League One	44	20	3	0	3	2	0	0	50	22
Wigan Athletic	2015–16[73]	League One	40	25	1	0	1	1	1[a]	2	43	28
	2016–17[74]	Championship	33	5	2	1	1	1	—		36	7
	2017–18[75]	League One	43	19	8	7	2	0	0	0	53	26
	2018–19[76]	Championship	17	4	1	0	0	0	—		18	4
Sunderland	2018–19[76]	League One	18	4	—		—		4	1	22	5
	2019–20[77]	League One	10	1	0	0	2	1	0	0	12	2

Will Grigg  125 in 378


















[th]Club[/th][th]Season[/th][th]League[/th][th]FA Cup[/th][th]League Cup[/th][th]Other[/th][th]Total [/th][th]Division[/th][th]Apps[/th][th]Goals[/th][th]Apps[/th][th]Goals[/th][th]Apps[/th][th]Goals[/th][th]Apps[/th][th]Goals[/th][th]Apps[/th][th]Goals [/th][th]Total[/th][th]77[/th][th]32[/th][th]5[/th][th]3[/th][th]3[/th][th]1[/th][th]4[/th][th]3[/th][th]89[/th][th]39 [/th][th]Total[/th][th]56[/th][th]22[/th][th]3[/th][th]1[/th][th]0[/th][th]0[/th][th]3[/th][th]0[/th][th]62[/th][th]23 [/th][th]Total[/th][th]30[/th][th]5[/th][th]0[/th][th]0[/th][th]2[/th][th]1[/th][th]6[/th][th]0[/th][th]38[/th][th]7 [/th][th]Career total[/th][th]230[/th][th]69[/th][th]8[/th][th]4[/th][th]5[/th][th]2[/th][th]12[/th][th]4[/th][th]258[/th][th]79 [/th]

Kettering Town (loan)	2011–12[14]	Conference Premier	12	2	0	0	—		0	0	12	2
Hartlepool United (loan)	2012–13[15]	League One	25	2	0	0	0	0	1[a]	0	26	2
AFC Wimbledon (loan)	2013–14[16]	League Two	17	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	17	2
Hartlepool United (loan)	2014–15[17]	League Two	13	4	0	0	0	0	1[a]	0	14	4
Carlisle United	2014–15[17]	League Two	17	6	0	0	0	0	0	0	17	6
	2015–16[18]		34	12	3	3	1	0	0	0	38	15
	2016–17[19]		26	14	2	0	2	1	4[a]	3	34	18
Bradford City	2016–17[19]	League One	16	7	0	0	0	0	3	0	19	7
	2017–18[19]	League One	40	15	3	1	0	0	0	0	43	16
Sunderland	2018–19[20]	League One	24	4	0	0	0	0	6[c]	1	30	5
	2019–20[21]		6	1	0	0	2	1	0	0	8	2

Charlie Wyke  79 in 258

As i said our goalscorers are not prolific enough - 25% goals to games ratio for Grigg and less than that for Wyke since they joined us, is nowhere near good enough. What they did in the past is irrelevant - sadly.

Hieronymus wrote:As i said our goalscorers are not prolific enough - 25% goals to games ratio for Grigg and less than that for Wyke since they joined us, is nowhere near good enough. What they did in the past is irrelevant - sadly.

Aguero at City, goals there something like 170 in 250. Were they scored in the future or the past.
No guarantee he will continue in that form, just as we dont know if Wyke or Grigg will improve.

wanderer wrote:

Hieronymus wrote:As i said our goalscorers are not prolific enough - 25% goals to games ratio for Grigg and less than that for Wyke since they joined us, is nowhere near good enough. What they did in the past is irrelevant - sadly.

Aguero at City, goals there something like 170 in 250. Were they scored in the future or the past.
No guarantee he will continue in that form, just as we dont know if Wyke or Grigg will improve.

Oh I think we do! But would love to be proved wrong