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Post  cyprussyd on 2013-10-29, 6:12 pm


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"Hideous and arrogant": Public reaction to Newcastle United ban of Chronicle and Journal
29 Oct 2013 08:00
News that the Chronicle, Journal and Sunday Sun had been banned broke on Twitter after Pardew refused questions at post-derby press conference



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The Chronicle yesterday confirmed it has been banned from access to media facilities, players or the manager of Newcastle United following a dispute over the coverage we gave to the Time 4 Change protest march last Saturday.
The Chronicle's NCJ Media sister titles, The Journal and Sunday Sun, have also been banned.
The news, which we had not spoken publicly about ahead of the [url=http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/all-about/wear-tyne derby]Wear-Tyne derby[/url], broke on Twitter following the post-match press conference, in which Alan Pardew refused to take questions from any NCJ Media journalists.
There has been plenty of reaction online and on social media - here is a selection of responses posted following [url=http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/all-about/wear-tyne derby]the derby[/url].
Newcastle MP Chi Onwurah: Often amazed by #nufc management actions but banning @EveningChron from SJP for coverage anti-Ashley march is... tweets fails me! #wronga
Ian Mearns MP: So the club will not answer questions from or talk to reporters from Chronicle Journal or Sunday Sun - pantomime descends into farce!
RichMyself: Banning the press for simply reporting issues surrounding #nufc is utterly appalling! Hideous and arrogant PR!
Andrew Dipper: Disgusting treatment of @EveningChron by #NUFC hierarchy - and good on NCJ for reporting it.
Michael Marsh: The @EveningChron has been more than fair to #nufc. To ban them, and others, from asking q's for covering a negative story is a disgrace.
BBC Andy Burke: Newcastle ban 3 local papers for perceived unfair coverage of protests against Mike Ashley. Freedom of speech? Not in football. #NUFC
George Caulkin: Evening Chronicle, Journal & Sunday Sun are presently banned from St James' and manager's press conferences. This is allegedly because of Chronicle's coverage of anti-Ashley march. Petty, pathetic and bullying tactics.
Cushy Butterfield: Come on then NCJ. The gloves are off. Personally I thought your coverage of the protest march was lukewarm. If Ashley can take offence at that coverage show him what you can do when you really try. You will have plenty of support on here.
Michael Allen: I think this is a big mistake by the Ashley regime, as he has had a lot of support from the local press. This stupid action could encourage more demonstrations by the fans.
Paul Newsome: Mike Ashley has his own media to cover Newcastle United now, Sports Direct News. They won't get problems from there and having the best access to NUFC will be a great coup for them. Though of course, I wouldn't even dream of suggesting that this is in any way connected.
Robin Jonathan Wood: I think this is outstanding news. The Chronicle and Journal lick the club's backside. The worse it gets the happier I'll be. Apathy is killing us.
Michael Caine: The Chronicle & its loyal readers must stand together against this morally bankrupt regime. We both deserve better. This could prove a big mistake by Ashley & his hangers-on like Wendy Taylor. Huge mistake.
Alan Forster: Oh dear, what a slippery slope Ashley and his gang are on. What'll it be next and where will it end? Someone once said it was better to let the world think you were a fool than to open your mouth and prove the world correct. Well, Ashley and gang are doing a great job of proving to the world just what they really are - let's hope they keep it up so no one can be left in any doubt!
I was proud to be one of last week's marchers and am delighted that the reporting of a peaceful, lawful and democratic protest seems to have had such an ill thought through panic reaction in the corridors of power at SJP (or wherever Ashley and gang hang out these days). What is needed now is to build on this encouragement and in our own small way follow the example of people around the world who have shown that with dignity and unity, autocratic regimes can indeed be changed.
I hope the local press reacts to this bullying attempt to influence its editorial independence by shining a spotlight on NUFC's puppet masters and their dealings in the name of our club. So go to it Chronicle/Journal/Sunday Sun - prove that the pen is indeed mightier than the sword!
Daniel Hall: Tell you what NCJ Media, why not do a full page, full front spread in the Evening Chronicle about the Ashley regime and his dictatorship? A move that shows an in-depth view of how he's ripped our club of our pride. Why not? Ashley needs to know that if he takes the proverbial the media is licensed to us make public the views of the masses. Incredible, just incredible.
Chronicle and their associates: I hope you now stand up and support what our club needs-a voice to get rid of this little man called Mike Ashley who seems to think he can control every single one of us and never be held accountable just because he has a couple more quid in his bank account!
Jo Aros: I think my first port of call would be to ask NUFC 's press officer, Wendy Taylor for a justification of their policy towards our local newspapers. Just basic questions like a press officer is usually a liaison between club and fans/media, is your role the same Ms Taylor or are you there to muzzle all NUFC employees, including the manager? Have you been told not to give interviews to the local press, if so by whom? It's like a surreal script from a Goon Show, only a Newcastle Press Officer could attempt to gag its own manager! Farcical! Media censorship by Ashley and Co cos he doesn't like the story of 500/600 hundred supporters exercising their democratic right to protest at the way our great club is being appallingly run.
Ian Windsor: It about time the chronicle stopped "messing about " and went to work on reporting about the rubbish and lack of communication coming from the club . And while you're on it get the national press involved as well. You have the power to, whether you have the balls to is another thing.
Derick Smith: The world war one phrase "Lions led by donkeys" come to mind. A once proud football club made a laughing stock by its owner and his cronies, stay strong the Mags, the rest of football knows you're better than this.
Tony Penn: Well Editorial Team - your gagging by Cashley is a surprise since you have given him a very comfortable time since he arrived. Your readers have been telling you for years now how it really was and what the man is but you would never reflect it. Now the gloves are off and it really is time to stick the boot in. You have nothing to lose and we have everything to gain. Expose this parasite for what he is.
Howard Linskey: Gagging the Chronicle, Journal and Sunday Sun as a punishment for reporting on something that actually happened is yet another example of appalling judgement by Ashley and his lackeys. This petty and spiteful act merely strengthens the local media and puts them back on side with fans who have previously questioned whether they have been robust enough to tackle this regime head on. It also makes the club look like a laughing stock yet again. Hopefully the gloves will come off now, as the local press has nothing left to lose. Ask those difficult questions about where all the money has gone, how much Sports Direct pay for ground advertising, where the shirt money goes to - NUFC or Sports Direct? And just what Joe Kinnear does all day? Question the appalling lack of ambition at our club. Nothing to lose now so go for it! Utterly shameful @NUFCOfficial. Hang your heads. You've lost the fans and the local press. What have you got left?
Kenny Trainer: Total joke... obviously Mr Ashley and his team don't realise what the silence from him and the club is doing to the club.
The Maverick: The club need to deal with criticism and us fans deserve to hear from our manager locally.
Fredrik Andréasson: What's next? Banning the supporters?
Wayne Daley: Banning of The Chron is outrageous and shows how out of touch Ashley is. He may be rich but free speech is worth more than him.
Geordie Highlander: Now where are those people who say Pardew is not part of this and he is just a puppet? He IS part of this mess and has to go.
Duncan Black: He should be apologising to every fan locally just another embarrassment.
Lee Wilson: Gutless, inept, heartless the list goes on and on!!! Will I be banned now like the @EveningChron?
Brett Devenish: Pathetic attempt from @NUFCOfficial to defend themselves from deserved criticism by the likes of @EveningChron
Lyndon Sowerby: It is less about the performances on the pitch and the functionality of the squad as that is all part of the game, but the lack of professionalism of those in charge towards the customers.
Cheaper seats does not cover up for a fragmented corporate (NUFC) entity that chooses to separate itself from those that have the most concern for the success of the club. Instead treating fans as idiots, clouding over the financial situation of the club and generating suspicion. This latest act does not promote the sense of honesty or community responsibility from the club and I would urge them to refer to their own 'Supporter Charter' displayed on their own website.
Alex Niven: Absolutely unbelievable. Newspaper banned for *reporting* democratic protest. Expect more of this.
Councillor Steven Bridgett (Coquetdale): I'm not even a massive football fan but I know attempted censorship when I see it! NUFC trying to gag press!
Geordie Mac: Once again the NUFC board (such as it is) has pressed the self destruct button. This is undoubtedly down to the owner not open to any criticism of the club's dealings/operation whatsoever. "This is my train set and nobody tells me what I can or cannot do with it" can be heard coming out of St James.
Steve Jackson: As far as I am concerned this frees you to tell it like it is. No need to make nice with Pardew any more in order to be fed stories. Ashley may be pulling the strings but Kinnear, Pardew, Charnley and Wendy Taylor are all happy to take his money and do his bidding. We need them all out. Time you were actively making that demand. You sided against McKeag and the result was the best time to be an NUFC fan in living memory. Time to do it again.
Sean Stephenson While the 300 who marched may have been a small amount in numbers, they represented the views of significantly more supporters that couldn't / didn't attend. So in that respect, your coverage wasn't disproportionate.
Brian Richardson Hope the rest of media world boycotts Ashley. Including TV media. Now that would hurt him big time. Such arrogance of this regime!
Nicky Ikin The biggest way to make our voices heard in protest would be to boycott the next 2 matches - but no one has the bottle to do it.
Clive Wilkinson Haha someone better tell him he's parked his tanks on his own lawn!
Lisa Keenan Mike Ashley & Co, for all the money you have, you need to grow a thicker skin. The fans are unhappy with you and your board and the choices you make, the local press will report on this as it's local interest. All you succeed in doing is embarrassing yourself, the club and its supporters. Shame on you, shame on you all.
Paul Brady This is yet another example of Ashley et al, showing just how far from reality they really are. They are so wrapped up on their own pathetic world, they can't even see the discontent not only at the club but also throughout the city.
Mike Withey 'How to win friends & influence people. Not.'
Martin Collins The coverage was not disproportionate. It was news. Regardless of the turn out my local paper was reporting on a growing discontent of fans with our beloved NUFC. The club should use the paper as a conduit to appease the fans. This is a PR disaster.
Stephen Buchan Distancing themselves further still from the man in the street!


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Post  cyprussyd on 2013-10-29, 6:15 pm

Alan Pardew’s Newcastle United lost for the second time in a row against Sunderland, their fierce rivals from Wearside, for the first time since 1967.
Neither side played great football on Sunday, but only one side played with the kind of passion you would expect from a Derby game like this one.
However, it is arguable that despite all that, the main talking point from the game from the Newcastle side wasn’t the events which transpired on the pitch, but something which happened afterwards in the post-match press conference.
When reporters from the region’s two largest local newspapers, Lee Ryder of the Chronicle and Mark Douglas from the Journal attempted to ask Pardew questions about the game, they were interrupted by Newcastle’s press officer who said ‘you can’t ask any questions.’
Later, Ryder, the Chronicle’s chief sports writer told Stan Collymore on TalkSport about the incident.
‘We did know about this last week but we didn’t want to go public on it because we didn’t want to interrupt the team’s preparations for the derby.’
This kind of begs the question, if they were banned last week from the club’s media facilities and access to players and coaches, then why were they allowed into the club’s post match press conference?
Ryder also explained to Collymore the reasons for the ban (which also applies to sister title the Sunday Sun) from his point of view.
He said: ‘The ban is quite simply because we decided to report on the supporter protests through the City last week.’
I read all the coverage in the three titles and there certainly wasn’t anything too antagonistic towards Ashley.

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Post  Guest on 2013-10-29, 6:25 pm

You know, Ashley's pulled them out the mire & yet they still twist about the bloke.

What do they want? Go back to the Hall/Sheperd era & pay Michael Owen 130 grand a week for lying on his back in the treatment room?

That's after initially paying £18m for him of course.
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Post  MrRAWhite on 2013-10-29, 6:28 pm

cyprussyd wrote:Alan Pardew’s Newcastle United lost for the second time in a row against Sunderland, their fierce rivals from Wearside, for the first time since 1967.
Neither side played great football on Sunday, but only one side played with the kind of passion you would expect from a Derby game like this one.
However, it is arguable that despite all that, the main talking point from the game from the Newcastle side wasn’t the events which transpired on the pitch, but something which happened afterwards in the post-match press conference.
When reporters from the region’s two largest local newspapers, Lee Ryder of the Chronicle and Mark Douglas from the Journal attempted to ask Pardew questions about the game, they were interrupted by Newcastle’s press officer who said ‘you can’t ask any questions.’
Later, Ryder, the Chronicle’s chief sports writer told Stan Collymore on TalkSport about the incident.
‘We did know about this last week but we didn’t want to go public on it because we didn’t want to interrupt the team’s preparations for the derby.’
This kind of begs the question, if they were banned last week from the club’s media facilities and access to players and coaches, then why were they allowed into the club’s post match press conference?
Ryder also explained to Collymore the reasons for the ban (which also applies to sister title the Sunday Sun) from his point of view.
He said: ‘The ban is quite simply because we decided to report on the supporter protests through the City last week.’
I read all the coverage in the three titles and there certainly wasn’t anything too antagonistic towards Ashley.
It seems like a case of biting the hand that feeds them to me...These papers have supported and publicised the Skunks for donkey's years..

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Post  cyprussyd on 2013-10-29, 6:36 pm

I would agree with that MrRAW, the club have managed to annoy just about everyone and love them or hate them the local press can be a very dangerous enemy

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Post  gil t azell on 2013-10-29, 6:59 pm

I'm quite happy to leave them be and slowly descend into the bowels of the earth with their Robert Mugabe Academy man management skills. 

Not a good idea to upset the press although they still wont change allegiance and support the better north east team
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Post  Guest on 2013-10-30, 8:54 am

Nothing sums up Newcastle supporters better than Tony Penn's comment : "Now the gloves are off and it really is time to stick the boot in."

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy 
Only a Newcastle supporter would have had gloves on his feet to start with!

Hey, Jerry, there's a new fashion idea for you - footgloves!  Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy 
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Post  cyprussyd on 2013-10-30, 9:15 am

cuteybuns wrote:Nothing sums up Newcastle supporters better than Tony Penn's comment : "Now the gloves are off and it really is time to stick the boot in."

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy 
Only a Newcastle supporter would have had gloves on his feet to start with!

Hey, Jerry, there's a new fashion idea for you - footgloves!  Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy 
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Post  Guest on 2013-10-30, 11:33 am

I am not sure sure any Sunderland supporter with the perilous position we are in can really enjoy any schadenfreude  concerning the tyneside club.

If and when we manage to get to safety I might start to enjoy the soap opera that goes on at wonga park, but until then all my worries and any joys revolve around our results.
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Post  Guest on 2013-10-30, 12:12 pm

itt"[color=#ff3333]]I am not sure sure any Sunderland supporter with the perilous position we are in can really enjoy any schadenfreude  concerning the tyneside club.

If and when we manage to get to safety I might start to enjoy the soap opera that goes on at wonga park, but until then all my worries and any joys revolve around our results.[/quote]
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Post  Guest on 2013-10-30, 9:59 pm

sunderpitt wrote:I am not sure sure any Sunderland supporter with the perilous position we are in can really enjoy any schadenfreude  concerning the tyneside club.

If and when we manage to get to safety I might start to enjoy the soap opera that goes on at wonga park, but until then all my worries and any joys revolve around our results.
Well, I know we're in a difficult position, but it's nice to take your mind off football and watch Newcastle sometimes.  I mean, we were in a pretty perilous situation last April, but still, we all had a laugh at the horse-punching concert, didn't we?
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Post  cyprussyd on 2013-10-30, 10:01 pm

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