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Post  Guest on 2012-12-13, 7:41 pm

So just what is everyone's perception on the legacy he left at SAFC?

Still a FGB or a bloke who done well, or just ok?

Was he harshly treated, or mearly just miss understood on what he was trying to do..

Will he be remembered in history as a major mistake for the club, or someone who moved the club forwards?


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When Steve Bruce was sacked by Sunderland just over a year ago, it was natural to wonder whether his managerial career would ever be the same again. As demises go, his on Wearside was as unceremonious as one could imagine.

As the Black Cats snatched defeat from the jaws of victory against bottom-of-the-table Wigan in front of a livid Stadium of Light crowd, Bruce slipped sheepishly down the tunnel to chants of “You fat Geordie b******, get out of our club!”

It was the last thing he’d hear from them, but worse was to follow. The obituaries that greeted his dismissal days later painted the picture of a man completely out of touch with the modern game, an old-timer unwilling to embrace anything that he didn’t learn from Sir Alex Ferguson.

In his first few weeks at Sunderland, Bruce was asked by a local reporter whether he would consider experimenting with a Christmas Tree formation. “I’m not really into tactics,” came the response. It was greeted by quizzical looks and, two years on, nobody was really sure whether he meant it or not.

Therefore, it’s ironic that Bruce should be blazing a trail in the Championship with a revolutionary 3-5-2 system that is setting Hull apart from the rest of the division. The Tigers are currently fourth in the table with 38 points from 21 games. Only leaders Cardiff have won more matches.

So has Bruce turned over a new leaf, or was he just having a laugh at everyone else’s expense all along? Truth be told, it’s still hard to tell. What he did do was make a bold decision in the summer, based on the personnel he inherited and it’s worked a treat. For that, he deserves enormous credit.

However, the suspicion remains that Bruce’s early success at the KC Stadium is a triumph of personality rather than strategy. The players are playing for an esteemed figure, a man who has captained Manchester United and managed for most of the past ten years at Premier League level. And, evidently, Bruce is doing nothing to shatter the impression that his words are those of real wisdom.

In such scenarios, it’s hard to fail. Owning the dressing room is half the battle for any manager and it’s eye-opening how many Hull players have gone public with their preference of 3-5-2 over 4-4-2, saying how much the system suits them personally. Now ask yourself, would the response over such a fundamental issue be so wholehearted for a promising rookie plucked from League Two?

Either way, we can only praise Bruce for bouncing back the way he has when his career looked set to be treading the same path as former colleague Bryan Robson. No matter where on the scale between blind luck and shrewd judgement his 3-5-2 system falls, there’s a lot be said for doing things differently and opposing managers have been queueing up to tell us how a game against Hull has got them scratching their heads.

The Tigers have been one of the most adventurous teams in the Chmapionship this season – a fact illustrated by only two draws – and they deserve to be where they are. But the caveat comes in the form of familiarity. As they go round the course second time around, opponents will have prior experience to call upon and the 3-5-2 might not be nearly as effective.

Only then, perhaps, will we find out whether Bruce has what it takes to manage in the Premier League again.
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Post  cyprussyd on 2012-12-13, 8:10 pm

Mr Bruce, was there ever a manager who caused a split like him.

When he came he was not my choice, did not excite but he was Quinns choice, Short seemed to like him and he looked for a while like he was meant to be here.

In came Cana,Bent,Wellbeck, Gyan, Muntari, Menssah, wins came, success came and all looked good,a master stroke and a top manager.

Then just as quick as they came they went and one by one for no obvious reason we lost them and replaced them with,Bendtner.

Long before Bruce left us he had lost the players and the fans but in truth the clues were there from the start, his ability to say things that would haunt him.

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We the fans are too ambitious.
He had his music picked for when we thrashed the mags.

I like Bruce,enjoy listening to him and thought the abuse he received was out of order. That said I think Wigan was his level, he could not and maybe will never manage at top premier standard.

To think he was tipped to succeed SAF at one time.


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Post  Hieronymus on 2012-12-14, 10:32 am

Saw this advert last night in the Classified section of the Evening Chronicle. It made me giggle Laughing

I couldn't get a decent photo on my phone but the wording of the advert went like this:

DONKEY LOST - last seen in Hull area - answers to the name of stevebruce. Desperately missed. REWARD £99.00 Tel 0191 551 5123

There are some wags around eh? LOL!
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Post  Guest on 2012-12-14, 10:34 am

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Post  Guest on 2012-12-14, 12:23 pm

I personally think Bruce got a lot of stick because he was from Newcastle. He got badly let down by Bent and Gyan who both let us when we needed them most. I suspect both leaving was nothing to do with Bruce.

It was Gyan's departure that cost Bruce the most because a fit hungry Gyan would have scored goals and kept our league position higher. We were great at the back at the start of last season we just could not score.

I think had Bruce stayed we would have just stayed up, I think he would have signed Fletcher and Johnson and we would be about where we are now.

I don't think the problem is the manager, the problem is the players and the fact we seem to always get a lot of injuries and never get our fist 11 fully fit and out on the pitch. Catts always misses 1/2 a season with injuries and suspensions. Without him we always struggle in midfield. Gardner is our forward thinking centre midfielder but ends up playing out of position because our RB is injured.

Ideally We should be lining up like this:

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Bardo.. JOS.. Brown.. Rose
Larsson. Catts. Gardner.. AJ
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.................Fletch...............

I believe the above is our strongest first 11. When will we ever see that team?? probably never because Brown might never get back fully fit.

So in Jan we need: A quality CM who can play instead of Catts, A quality CB to replace Brown and probably a RB on loan.

We have good squad players like: McClean, Vaughan, Colback, Saha, Campbell, Cuellar, Bramble, Killgalon. who can all do a decent job but they are not week in week out players for me.

Look at the starting 1 only possibly Bardo is not a top 10 premier league player out of that lot.

Fair play to Bruce, he improved our team compared to what Keane left us and he improved our profile. I just hope MON is a step up. Remember is Bruce's 2nd season we finished 10th. In his first full season we finished 13th. I think most of us would be happy with a 13th finish this season under MON.

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Post  MrRAWhite on 2012-12-14, 9:51 pm

I've no hard feelings regarding Bruce...it's just a pity that it didn't work out between him and us..

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Post  Guest on 2012-12-15, 8:18 am

Probably in a minority here but, his roots or what team he supported when 6 didn't bother me nor did his expanding wasteline and fondness for pies. His first season he did okay second season he did well that mythical 10th place finish but, most could see the warning signs during that season. Two epic slumps in the Winter, the Halloween horror show stupid subs tactics and, even worse comments did for him after that 10th place finish for me anyway. That is why I'm hoping MON gets another season to sort us, if it was good enough for SB then it's good enough for MON.
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Post  Vincemac on 2012-12-15, 10:11 am

MrRAWhite wrote:I've no hard feelings regarding Bruce...it's just a pity that it didn't work out between him and us..
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