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Post  cyprussyd on 2019-08-12, 3:05 pm

Who will it be this season, a mate from the Toon thinks Newcastle

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Post  Sid MCFC on 2019-08-13, 1:12 pm

cyprussyd wrote:Who will it be this season, a mate from the Toon thinks Newcastle
One never knows but I wouldn’t ask him for his prediction on lottery numbers.
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Post  cyprussyd on 2019-08-13, 1:50 pm

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cyprussyd wrote:Who will it be this season, a mate from the Toon thinks Newcastle
One never knows but I wouldn’t ask him for his prediction on lottery numbers.
Oh I think we all do know it wont be our northern neighbours, I will emigrate if it is, will be unbearable up here.

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Post  oldblackcat on 2019-08-13, 7:25 pm

I see a blue moon fi
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Post  canary-dave on 2019-08-13, 7:48 pm

oldblackcat wrote:I see a blue moon fi

Somebody with a cold bum????

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Post  fitz on 2019-08-13, 11:02 pm

Man City almost certainly - given how much they have spent hard to see anyone else winning it

"Since arriving in 2016 he's spent more than twice what he did at either Bayern Munich or Barcelona. City's spend in his time is 762.3 million euros, Barcelona's was 341.5 million euros and Bayern's 204.1 million euros."

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Post  Sid MCFC on 2019-08-14, 9:55 am

fitz wrote:Man City almost certainly - given how much they have spent hard to see anyone else winning it

"Since arriving in 2016 he's spent more than twice what he did at either Bayern Munich or Barcelona. City's spend in his time is 762.3 million euros, Barcelona's was 341.5 million euros and Bayern's 204.1 million euros."
That’s because we were utter shite. Lol
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Post  cyprussyd on 2019-08-14, 3:16 pm

Sid MCFC wrote:
fitz wrote:Man City almost certainly - given how much they have spent hard to see anyone else winning it

"Since arriving in 2016 he's spent more than twice what he did at either Bayern Munich or Barcelona. City's spend in his time is 762.3 million euros, Barcelona's was 341.5 million euros and Bayern's 204.1 million euros."
That’s because we were utter shite. Lol
Well we spent 4 mil on Will Grigg so there

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Post  fitz on 2019-08-14, 6:41 pm

Sid MCFC wrote:
fitz wrote:Man City almost certainly - given how much they have spent hard to see anyone else winning it

"Since arriving in 2016 he's spent more than twice what he did at either Bayern Munich or Barcelona. City's spend in his time is 762.3 million euros, Barcelona's was 341.5 million euros and Bayern's 204.1 million euros."
That’s because we were utter shite. Lol

it must be nice to be a long term fan of such a team but I cannot stand the way that top flight football is pretty much just a question of "who has the owners with the deepest pockets" (across every major league) - so much better in the NFL with no transfer fees, no relegation, salary caps and the like - I know it would never work in football but its just so much more enjoyable as a fan knowing that every team has a shot with a bit of luck

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Post  Sid MCFC on 2019-08-15, 10:31 am

fitz wrote:
Sid MCFC wrote:
fitz wrote:Man City almost certainly - given how much they have spent hard to see anyone else winning it

"Since arriving in 2016 he's spent more than twice what he did at either Bayern Munich or Barcelona. City's spend in his time is 762.3 million euros, Barcelona's was 341.5 million euros and Bayern's 204.1 million euros."
That’s because we were utter shite. Lol

it must be nice to be a long term fan of such a team but I cannot stand the way that top flight football is pretty much just a question of "who has the owners with the deepest pockets" (across every major league) - so much better in the NFL with no transfer fees, no relegation, salary caps and the like - I know it would never work in football but its just so much more enjoyable as a fan knowing that every team has a shot with a bit of luck
I understand where you are coming from Fitz.

I know zilch about the NFL but from what you’ve said they appear to have some good ideas except the bit about no relegation and therefore no promotions.  I certainly wouldn’t like that as the divisions would just stagnate with the rich staying richer and the poor staying poor.
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Post  Hieronymus on 2019-08-15, 11:31 am

Sid MCFC wrote:
fitz wrote:
Sid MCFC wrote:
fitz wrote:Man City almost certainly - given how much they have spent hard to see anyone else winning it

"Since arriving in 2016 he's spent more than twice what he did at either Bayern Munich or Barcelona. City's spend in his time is 762.3 million euros, Barcelona's was 341.5 million euros and Bayern's 204.1 million euros."
That’s because we were utter shite. Lol

it must be nice to be a long term fan of such a team but I cannot stand the way that top flight football is pretty much just a question of "who has the owners with the deepest pockets" (across every major league) - so much better in the NFL with no transfer fees, no relegation, salary caps and the like - I know it would never work in football but its just so much more enjoyable as a fan knowing that every team has a shot with a bit of luck
I understand where you are coming from Fitz.

I know zilch about the NFL but from what you’ve said they appear to have some good ideas except the bit about no relegation and therefore no promotions.  I certainly wouldn’t like that as the divisions would just stagnate with the rich staying richer and the poor staying poor.
All NFL franchises are rich beyond what most of us can understand (probably not you though Sid)! The 'no promotion or relegation' thing is because there is no other professional league anyway, with the 'league' below professional being the University (amateur) NCAA league. And that is where the equality thing comes in (which I find totally ironic in the USA, where Capitalism is king and Socialism equates to Communism!") because the team finishing bottom of the NFL gets first 'pick' of the highest ranked NCAA player. This ranking is formed over their 4 year University career and is very statistical. Anyway then the next lowest finshing NFL team gets the next pick and so on for 7 rounds (32 teams in NFL) until all ranked players are selected. This system ensures a level playing field - although there is some 'horse trading' of picks I believe but only in later rounds - the first two rounds are not allowed to be exchanged. It's a fascinating system devised by the money men and TV channels to maximise interest in a game that very few can actually afford to watch live - and with very little travelling support as the distances are so huge.

If you wonde rhow I know about this - I went to University in Wisconsin many years ago and learned to love watching all sports (except ice hockey - never enjoyed that) Baseball was my favourite though, one part of my time there I only lived a couple of miles from Milwaukee Brewers stadium and could pop along any time - Baseball was much cheaper to watch than football or basketball. Plus in summer was lovely instead of the below freezing weather we got in football season in Wisconsin!
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Post  fitz on 2019-08-15, 10:43 pm

Sid MCFC wrote:
fitz wrote:
Sid MCFC wrote:
fitz wrote:Man City almost certainly - given how much they have spent hard to see anyone else winning it

"Since arriving in 2016 he's spent more than twice what he did at either Bayern Munich or Barcelona. City's spend in his time is 762.3 million euros, Barcelona's was 341.5 million euros and Bayern's 204.1 million euros."
That’s because we were utter shite. Lol

it must be nice to be a long term fan of such a team but I cannot stand the way that top flight football is pretty much just a question of "who has the owners with the deepest pockets" (across every major league) - so much better in the NFL with no transfer fees, no relegation, salary caps and the like - I know it would never work in football but its just so much more enjoyable as a fan knowing that every team has a shot with a bit of luck
I understand where you are coming from Fitz.

I know zilch about the NFL but from what you’ve said they appear to have some good ideas except the bit about no relegation and therefore no promotions.  I certainly wouldn’t like that as the divisions would just stagnate with the rich staying richer and the poor staying poor.

that is the beauty of the US system though - through the draft and the salary cap it promotes a level playing field approach because as you get star players they want to get paid more and you cannot afford to keep them all due to the salary cap so they get traded or just leave in free agency 

of course you get the odd 'freak' team like the Patriots that has been one of the top teams for a long time mainly due to having a great coach and Tom Brady (one of the best QBs that has proven to be incredibly durable and is playing well into his 40s) but even their dynasty will come to an end within a year or two and someone else will rise up (though never my team, the Jets, I seem to have an uncanny knack of only ever supporting teams that are never successful during my lifetime)

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Post  fitz on 2019-08-15, 10:44 pm

Hieronymus wrote:
Sid MCFC wrote:
fitz wrote:
Sid MCFC wrote:
fitz wrote:Man City almost certainly - given how much they have spent hard to see anyone else winning it

"Since arriving in 2016 he's spent more than twice what he did at either Bayern Munich or Barcelona. City's spend in his time is 762.3 million euros, Barcelona's was 341.5 million euros and Bayern's 204.1 million euros."
That’s because we were utter shite. Lol

it must be nice to be a long term fan of such a team but I cannot stand the way that top flight football is pretty much just a question of "who has the owners with the deepest pockets" (across every major league) - so much better in the NFL with no transfer fees, no relegation, salary caps and the like - I know it would never work in football but its just so much more enjoyable as a fan knowing that every team has a shot with a bit of luck
I understand where you are coming from Fitz.

I know zilch about the NFL but from what you’ve said they appear to have some good ideas except the bit about no relegation and therefore no promotions.  I certainly wouldn’t like that as the divisions would just stagnate with the rich staying richer and the poor staying poor.
All NFL franchises are rich beyond what most of us can understand (probably not you though Sid)! The 'no promotion or relegation' thing is because there is no other professional league anyway, with the 'league' below professional being the University (amateur) NCAA league. And that is where the equality thing comes in (which I find totally ironic in the USA, where Capitalism is king and Socialism equates to Communism!") because the team finishing bottom of the NFL gets first 'pick' of the highest ranked NCAA player. This ranking is formed over their 4 year University career and is very statistical. Anyway then the next lowest finshing NFL team gets the next pick and so on for 7 rounds (32 teams in NFL) until all ranked players are selected. This system ensures a level playing field - although there is some 'horse trading' of picks I believe but only in later rounds - the first two rounds are not allowed to be exchanged. It's a fascinating system devised by the money men and TV channels to maximise interest in a game that very few can actually afford to watch live - and with very little travelling support as the distances are so huge.

If you wonde rhow I know about this - I went to University in Wisconsin many years ago and learned to love watching all sports (except ice hockey - never enjoyed that) Baseball was my favourite though, one part of my time there I only lived a couple of miles from Milwaukee Brewers stadium and could pop along any time - Baseball was much cheaper to watch than football or basketball. Plus in summer was lovely instead of the below freezing weather we got in football season in Wisconsin!

you can trade any and all draft picks, including those in the first two rounds, even the #1 overall pick has been traded a number of times

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Post  Hieronymus on 2019-08-16, 10:03 am

fitz wrote:
Hieronymus wrote:
Sid MCFC wrote:
fitz wrote:
Sid MCFC wrote:
fitz wrote:Man City almost certainly - given how much they have spent hard to see anyone else winning it

"Since arriving in 2016 he's spent more than twice what he did at either Bayern Munich or Barcelona. City's spend in his time is 762.3 million euros, Barcelona's was 341.5 million euros and Bayern's 204.1 million euros."
That’s because we were utter shite. Lol

it must be nice to be a long term fan of such a team but I cannot stand the way that top flight football is pretty much just a question of "who has the owners with the deepest pockets" (across every major league) - so much better in the NFL with no transfer fees, no relegation, salary caps and the like - I know it would never work in football but its just so much more enjoyable as a fan knowing that every team has a shot with a bit of luck
I understand where you are coming from Fitz.

I know zilch about the NFL but from what you’ve said they appear to have some good ideas except the bit about no relegation and therefore no promotions.  I certainly wouldn’t like that as the divisions would just stagnate with the rich staying richer and the poor staying poor.
All NFL franchises are rich beyond what most of us can understand (probably not you though Sid)! The 'no promotion or relegation' thing is because there is no other professional league anyway, with the 'league' below professional being the University (amateur) NCAA league. And that is where the equality thing comes in (which I find totally ironic in the USA, where Capitalism is king and Socialism equates to Communism!") because the team finishing bottom of the NFL gets first 'pick' of the highest ranked NCAA player. This ranking is formed over their 4 year University career and is very statistical. Anyway then the next lowest finshing NFL team gets the next pick and so on for 7 rounds (32 teams in NFL) until all ranked players are selected. This system ensures a level playing field - although there is some 'horse trading' of picks I believe but only in later rounds - the first two rounds are not allowed to be exchanged. It's a fascinating system devised by the money men and TV channels to maximise interest in a game that very few can actually afford to watch live - and with very little travelling support as the distances are so huge.

If you wonde rhow I know about this - I went to University in Wisconsin many years ago and learned to love watching all sports (except ice hockey - never enjoyed that) Baseball was my favourite though, one part of my time there I only lived a couple of miles from Milwaukee Brewers stadium and could pop along any time - Baseball was much cheaper to watch than football or basketball. Plus in summer was lovely instead of the below freezing weather we got in football season in Wisconsin!

you can trade any and all draft picks, including those in the first two rounds, even the #1 overall pick has been traded a number of times
Ahh well it was over 40 years ago I was there (1975-81) and things will have changed.
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