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Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  vinkel on 2018-11-18, 5:14 pm

In my opinion it was a combination of things.
1 Wycombe played to a plan,dont give our creative players any space, ie Gooch and Maguire.
2 They were happy to let our centre backs play passy passy and then hoof the ball upfield.
3 McGeoch and Honeymany as a centre mid pairing
4 To play Sinclair as lone striker he needs the ball played on the deck for him to run onto, not in the air.
5 If we must play McGeady put him behind the striker, and leave the wide areas to Gooch and Maguire.
Right or wrong thats my assessment. Let the abuse begin.

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Re: Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  cyprussyd on 2018-11-18, 7:17 pm

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Re: Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  gil t azell on 2018-11-18, 7:24 pm

1. Both McGuire & McGeady had an off day.
2. Honeyman not McGeouch should have been subbed.
3. Wycombe's game plan worked.
4. I hope it wasnt complacency from us.
5. Methinks we should be playing two upfront when at home. Neither Sinclair nor Maja have much help when up there alone. Wyke should be able to hold things up to help.
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Re: Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  gil t azell on 2018-11-18, 7:25 pm

cyprussyd wrote:You will be lucky to get a reply these days let alone abuse

Sorry to disappoint Syd.
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Re: Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  Gordon Armstrong on 2018-11-18, 7:30 pm

Yesterday was probably our worst display this season . . . . it was just so disjointed, and our threat to them was virtually now't Sad

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is regarding Maguire's dive. I haven't seen any replays, so I'm only basing this on one view at the match (I sit in the Fulwell End and it was just about right in front of me), but I hate diving and to me he should have been shown a yellow card for cheating.
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Re: Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  Vincemac on 2018-11-18, 8:00 pm

gil t azell wrote:1. Both McGuire & McGeady had an off day.
2. Honeyman not McGeouch should have been subbed.
3. Wycombe's game plan worked.
4. I hope it wasnt complacency from us.
5. Methinks we should be playing two upfront when at home. Neither Sinclair nor Maja have much help when up there alone. Wyke should be able to hold things up to help.
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Re: Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  barrowmackem on 2018-11-18, 8:03 pm

nothing went wrong, we are not like the deluded ones up the road. We cant win every game and it will happen again.

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Re: Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  gil t azell on 2018-11-18, 8:24 pm

Gordon Armstrong wrote:Yesterday was probably our worst display this season . . . . it was just so disjointed, and our threat to them was virtually now't Sad

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is regarding Maguire's dive. I haven't seen any replays, so I'm only basing this on one view at the match (I sit in the Fulwell End and it was just about right in front of me), but I hate diving and to me he should have been shown a yellow card for cheating.
Yup totally agree
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Re: Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  Mackemneil on 2018-11-18, 8:34 pm

barrowmackem wrote:nothing went wrong, we are not like the deluded ones up the road. We cant win every game and it will happen again.
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Important to make changes in the next game to pep them up again. Catts and Power back in the heart of midfield will help to raise spirits. Ross will keep rotating the squad, plenty of competition for places!!!
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Re: Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  Vincemac on 2018-11-18, 9:23 pm

barrowmackem wrote:nothing went wrong, we are not like the deluded ones up the road. We cant win every game and it will happen again.
Yeh that’s right 
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Re: Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  Kipper on 2018-11-19, 9:53 am

McGeady should have scored in the first half.
Nobody passed well at all so we resorted to hoofing it up and hope for the best.
Perhaps the substitutions should have been made earlier.

What went right? We didn't give up and pressed. Wycombe weren't interested once they had their goal. We were rubbish and we didn't lose.

I think this will give them a bit of a reality check and they will get their act together for the next game. Onward and upward.
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Re: Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  sunderpitt on 2018-11-19, 10:29 am

In some previous home games I wondered about the tactic of McLaughlin hoofing the ball upfield as our players hardly ever won the first or second ball.

So on Saturday I thought it an improvement that the keeper rolled the ball out, usually to the CBs. However the midfield seemed to run upfield leaving the CBs to attempt a long pass. Unfortunately their pass completion rate was abysmal. Play improved when Power came on and demanded the ball and mainly hit short passes... him and Catts would be good at this.


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Re: Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  Kipper on 2018-11-19, 11:24 am

sunderpitt wrote:In some previous home games I wondered about the tactic of McLaughlin hoofing the ball upfield as our players hardly ever won the first or second ball.

So on Saturday I thought it an improvement that the keeper rolled the ball out, usually to the CBs. However the midfield seemed to run upfield leaving the CBs to attempt a long pass. Unfortunately their pass completion rate was abysmal. Play improved when Power came on and demanded the ball and mainly hit short passes... him and Catts would be good at this.


Onwards and upwards

Agree. So long as Catts is OK I expect him and Power to play together for the next game.

I'm also sure the analysis is being done and Ross is working on it on the training field.
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Re: Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  MrRAWhite on 2018-11-20, 1:03 pm

Lackluster display by the team and a very subdued and quiet stadium from the off. This was a kick up the arse for all of us..

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Re: Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  gil t azell on 2018-11-20, 6:40 pm

MrRAWhite wrote:Lackluster display by the team and a very subdued and quiet stadium from the off. This was a kick up the arse for all of us..

Yes that was strange. Having said that the 1st half was dire and the team gave nothing to cheer for.

The Wycombe supporters were a canny bunch tho.
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Re: Well, what went wrong yesterday

Post  Kipper on 2018-11-21, 12:52 pm

Roker Report's verdict on Jack Ross in relation to the this game:

Although Maja has to start due to his sheer goal threat, Power’s inclusion was just as important. Ross got this one slightly wrong, but the failure to win does not lie with him.

Ainsworth got his defensive tatics spot on, and Ross almost turned the game around. Yet this is on the team who started - they had an off day (and fair enough in a 46 games season, it happens), but we still came out with our unbeaten home record in tact.

Ross identified what was needed, and made the three right subs to get us back into the game and almost steal it at the depth. Such was Power and Maja’s impact, that they accounted for 80% of all Sunderland shots on goal throughout the game. Mcgeady’s sitter was the only other.

and on post match comments:

Good stuff from the gaffer, but I can’t help but feel he rues not starting Maja and Power from the outset. Interestingly he almost admitted to it, discussing his “responsibility” over making tough decisions.

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