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Post  cyprussyd on 2018-02-01, 6:08 pm

We finish the season in mid table after a very good second half to the season.

Club chairman and owners from the top of the championship and a number in the premiership would look and think, "That Coleman chap seems a nice man who has turned Sunderland round with no money"?

If they came knocking would Cookie crumble and move on? See what I did there.

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Would Cookie be the catalyst for a new owner with money to spare that would convince Cookie that he could become a legend here|?


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Post  vinkel on 2018-02-01, 6:14 pm

cyprussyd wrote:We finish the season in mid table after a very good second half to the season.

Club chairman and owners from the top of the championship and a number in the premiership would look and think, "That Coleman chap seems a nice man who has turned Sunderland round with no money"?

If they came knocking would Cookie crumble and move on? See what I did there.

Or

Would Cookie be the catalyst for a new owner with money to spare that would convince Cookie that he could become a legend here|?


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Making jokes and thinking all in the 1 post, the meds must be working.

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Post  cyprussyd on 2018-02-01, 6:14 pm

vinkel wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:We finish the season in mid table after a very good second half to the season.

Club chairman and owners from the top of the championship and a number in the premiership would look and think, "That Coleman chap seems a nice man who has turned Sunderland round with no money"?

If they came knocking would Cookie crumble and move on? See what I did there.

Or

Would Cookie be the catalyst for a new owner with money to spare that would convince Cookie that he could become a legend here|?


Just thinking aloud, again.
Making jokes and thinking all in the 1 post, the meds must be working.
and typing, thats 3 things

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Post  gil t azell on 2018-02-01, 6:56 pm

Unless things improve I fully expect CC to walk away.

When your getting very little support from higher authority it could be he bails out. I dont think he's credibility would suffer as everyone knows we are a mess. 

PS, He may lose some credibility for taking the job in the 1st place.
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Post  cyprussyd on 2018-02-01, 7:34 pm

gil t azell wrote:Unless things improve I fully expect CC to walk away.

When your getting very little support from higher authority it could be he bails out. I dont think he's credibility would suffer as everyone knows we are a mess. 

PS, He may lose some credibility for taking the job in the 1st place.
After reading Banes comments at the recent meeting with fans groups I have a totally different view Gill.

Coleman was well aware of the financial restraints when he accepted the job and Shorts view on investment..

MB confirmed SAFC are committed to repaying or refinancing by July 2019. This secured debt is one of the outgoings that must be serviced, and the owner is committed to servicing that debt. b) Is the current lack of spending on player transfers related to this need? Not in itself but as one of a number of things that is resulting in an inability to invest as much into player recruitment as he would like. The owner is still “writing cheques” to cover deficits in running the club. c) How can we be competitive on the field and meet these financial obligations? He believes Chris Coleman, despite how it might look by some recent on the pitch performance, is changing the culture and mindset of the playing squad. In terms of player recruitment, we are primarily operating in the loan market and working hard to bring in players with the right attitude and desire. He would like to recruit beyond loans but that is not possible within the current financial situation. 


Bane inherited a dire financial mess and I believe that Coleman has bought into what Bane is trying to do, yes it is proving harder than he thought but I am confident we will beat the drop and some money will be available in the summer to bring in permanent transfers as well as loans.

IMO Coleman sees this as a chance to turn the club round and bring success, I cant see him walking.

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Post  gil t azell on 2018-02-01, 7:41 pm

cyprussyd wrote:
gil t azell wrote:Unless things improve I fully expect CC to walk away.

When your getting very little support from higher authority it could be he bails out. I dont think he's credibility would suffer as everyone knows we are a mess. 

PS, He may lose some credibility for taking the job in the 1st place.
After reading Banes comments at the recent meeting with fans groups I have a totally different view Gill.

Coleman was well aware of the financial restraints when he accepted the job and Shorts view on investment..

MB confirmed SAFC are committed to repaying or refinancing by July 2019. This secured debt is one of the outgoings that must be serviced, and the owner is committed to servicing that debt. b) Is the current lack of spending on player transfers related to this need? Not in itself but as one of a number of things that is resulting in an inability to invest as much into player recruitment as he would like. The owner is still “writing cheques” to cover deficits in running the club. c) How can we be competitive on the field and meet these financial obligations? He believes Chris Coleman, despite how it might look by some recent on the pitch performance, is changing the culture and mindset of the playing squad. In terms of player recruitment, we are primarily operating in the loan market and working hard to bring in players with the right attitude and desire. He would like to recruit beyond loans but that is not possible within the current financial situation. 


Bane inherited a dire financial mess and I believe that Coleman has bought into what Bane is trying to do, yes it is proving harder than he thought but I am confident we will beat the drop and some money will be available in the summer to bring in permanent transfers as well as loans.

IMO Coleman sees this as a chance to turn the club round and bring success, I cant see him walking.
To be fair I wasnt aware of that Syd but that has cheered me up no end. Like stated earlier tho I worry another club comes in for him. lets hope the 2nd half of the season we stay up and CC has a team that although young has the experience of almost a season playing together.
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Post  Nostalgic on 2018-02-01, 7:43 pm

gil t azell wrote:Unless things improve I fully expect CC to walk away.

When your getting very little support from higher authority it could be he bails out. I dont think he's credibility would suffer as everyone knows we are a mess. 

PS, He may lose some credibility for taking the job in the 1st place.
Two months into the job and we surprised the football world by getting him.  He knew what he was walking into and maybe we had a "show me before you get money" condition  discussed and agreed.

The team will be his by season's end so we all stand or fall together.

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Post  lesmac on 2018-02-01, 8:29 pm

cyprussyd wrote:
gil t azell wrote:Unless things improve I fully expect CC to walk away.

When your getting very little support from higher authority it could be he bails out. I dont think he's credibility would suffer as everyone knows we are a mess. 

PS, He may lose some credibility for taking the job in the 1st place.
After reading Banes comments at the recent meeting with fans groups I have a totally different view Gill.

Coleman was well aware of the financial restraints when he accepted the job and Shorts view on investment..

MB confirmed SAFC are committed to repaying or refinancing by July 2019. This secured debt is one of the outgoings that must be serviced, and the owner is committed to servicing that debt. b) Is the current lack of spending on player transfers related to this need? Not in itself but as one of a number of things that is resulting in an inability to invest as much into player recruitment as he would like. The owner is still “writing cheques” to cover deficits in running the club. c) How can we be competitive on the field and meet these financial obligations? He believes Chris Coleman, despite how it might look by some recent on the pitch performance, is changing the culture and mindset of the playing squad. In terms of player recruitment, we are primarily operating in the loan market and working hard to bring in players with the right attitude and desire. He would like to recruit beyond loans but that is not possible within the current financial situation. 


Bane inherited a dire financial mess and I believe that Coleman has bought into what Bane is trying to do, yes it is proving harder than he thought but I am confident we will beat the drop and some money will be available in the summer to bring in permanent transfers as well as loans.

IMO Coleman sees this as a chance to turn the club round and bring success, I cant see him walking.
It has been said in other posts in this thread that Coleman knew what faced him when he accepted the job. I don't think he is a quitter and I do think that he lives and works applying good set of principles. Those qualities together with a squad of players, mostly put together by him, and the passion of the supporters will see a gradual but positive improvement of Sunderland AFC.
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Post  cyprussyd on 2018-02-01, 8:45 pm

I dont think he will walk but could he be poached

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Post  Black Cat Kiwi on 2018-02-02, 11:13 pm

cyprussyd wrote:I dont think he will walk but could he be poached
I tend to concur with many a desperate owner prepared to roll the big money dice to ensure survival. What's 3/4M after all with the prize money available.

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