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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-11-04, 8:39 am

There have been many suggestions that O'Shea is a problem at Sunderland rather than the solution and maybe there is some truth in that theory.

Our biggest problem this season has been our inability to defend and let's be honest our defenders may not be the best but all are full internationals and can have off day's but should not be making the basic mistakes they are week in week out.

The one manager of late who has been able to get the defence to perform is Sam, a hard man and hard defender in his day, maybe hard enough to stand up to any potential problem.

Grayson is an experienced manager but came over has a nice guy, maybe to nice. He would work all week on defence, pick an experienced back 4 then watch scratching his head has all that training seemed to be forgotten and basic mistakes were made.

The leader in the middle of that back 4 was the very experienced John O'Shea who has just gained his coaching badges and is favourite for the managers job.

Could there be a link or am I just being silly, again?

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Post  gil t azell on 2017-11-04, 4:44 pm

Ive thought this for a long long time and wanted him, AJ, Seb & Catts bombed out a long tme ago.

Wish PDC had stated what the problem was. He sussed SAFC out in one week.
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Post  Nostalgic on 2017-11-04, 6:14 pm

gil t azell wrote:Ive thought this for a long long time and wanted him, AJ, Seb & Catts bombed out a long tme ago.

Wish PDC had stated what the problem was. He sussed SAFC out in one week.
All done to cover his own inadequacies.  Two points from seven games using his tactics says it all for me.

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Post  Nostalgic on 2017-11-04, 6:23 pm

cyprussyd wrote:There have been many suggestions that O'Shea is a problem at Sunderland rather than the solution and maybe there is some truth in that theory.

Our biggest problem this season has been our inability to defend and let's be honest our defenders may not be the best but all are full internationals and can have off day's but should not be making the basic mistakes they are week in week out.

The one manager of late who has been able to get the defence to perform is Sam, a hard man and hard defender in his day, maybe hard enough to stand up to any potential problem.

Grayson is an experienced manager but came over has a nice guy, maybe to nice. He would work all week on defence, pick an experienced back 4 then watch scratching his head has all that training seemed to be forgotten and basic mistakes were made.

The leader in the middle of that back 4 was the very experienced John O'Shea who has just gained his coaching badges and is favourite for the managers job.

Could there be a link or am I just being silly, again?
I cannot comment on any of the games this season as they are just not broadcast over here, but how many times have we conceded on the break or set pieces?  Sam and others had no problem keeping JOS in the team so singling him out where others have come up with Oviedo, Kone, Jones in after-match comments just puts him among others.

Maybe it is the failure of others further up the pitch who are providing the key to opening a stretched defence.  It cost plenty last season.

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Post  Black Cat Kiwi on 2017-11-05, 7:58 pm

gil t azell wrote:Ive thought this for a long long time and wanted him, AJ, Seb & Catts bombed out a long tme ago.

Wish PDC had stated what the problem was. He sussed SAFC out in one week.
Not fully but he definitely did say it was called John O'Shea.
IRC when he tried to remove Cattermole, O'Shea who was a witness to what Cattermole had done in this particular instance, later denied it to Bryne? Unfortunately the alleged the text messages of support from other squad members to Di Canio did not allude to the incident and so it appears a he said type senarion occurred.
Certainly reported in, from memory La Gazzetta? Not sure about UK.

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