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And now---------THE NEVER ENDING LIST OF SAVILLE ARRESTS

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Post  cyprussyd on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:15 pm

you have to wonder how many are jumping on the band wagon.

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Post  Black Cat Kiwi on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:21 pm

cyprussyd wrote:you have to wonder how many are jumping on the band wagon.

We didn't have a band wagon at our crèche. I want compensation from the Government for neglect & lack of equal opportunity.

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Post  Hieronymus on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:43 pm

If anything good has come from the Savile affair it is that at least victims now feel like they will be believed if they make a complaint. I do worry though that some unscrupulous people will try to take advantage of the
circumstances, and some untrue allegations will take us back to where we were before. However this one does seem of a more serious nature given the ages of the children reportedly involved. Stuart Hall charged

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Post  cyprussyd on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:50 pm

daft question I'm sure but, proof, how do they get it after all these years, is it the girls word against his, just curious how they do these things.

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Post  Black Cat Kiwi on Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:15 pm

Hieronymus wrote:If anything good has come from the Savile affair it is that at least victims now feel like they will be believed if they make a complaint. I do worry though that some unscrupulous people will try to take advantage of the
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, and some untrue allegations will take us back to where we were before. However this one does seem of a more serious nature given the ages of the children reportedly involved. Stuart Hall charged

New Zealand has a Government medical department called the Accident Compensation Corporation (ACC) which pays the medical costs for all injuries at work or play. You cannot sue like the US. Many many people, along with actual victims have done just as you question & along with the legal representatives that they've used, have done VERY well out of it! Try googling that one lol

Ps: I'm in no way condoning the actions of actual victims in speaking out.


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Post  Hieronymus on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:17 pm

I think it is a case of initially it is the victims word against the perpetrators, but their story must be convincing and there will have to be SOME corroboration for the police to actually press charges. Maybe someone else was present who has verified the story (often these men work together and maybe one has already confessed, or maybe more than one girl was involved and they have told the same story), or maybe victims who do not know each other have described similar experiences (these men often follow the same routine when they abuse) or they may have described an 'identifying mark' on the man that they would not know about unless their story was true. Who knows?

I think it is right to assume, as a starting point, that victims are telling the truth, even though I also firmly believe that anyone accused of a crime is innocent until proven guilty. I do feel a bit conflicted about names being out in the public domain, given the whole trial by media thing, although I know this encourages more potential victims to come forward. Not sure if there is an answer to this conundrum in the modern world of twitter, facebook etc.

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Post  Black Cat Kiwi on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:28 pm

Hieronymus wrote:I think it is a case of initially it is the victims word against the perpetrators, but their story must be convincing and there will have to be SOME corroboration for the police to actually press charges. Maybe someone else was present who has verified the story (often these men work together and maybe one has already confessed, or maybe more than one girl was involved and they have told the same story), or maybe victims who do not know each other have described similar experiences (these men often follow the same routine when they abuse) or they may have described an 'identifying mark' on the man that they would not know about unless their story was true. Who knows?

I think it is right to assume, as a starting point, that victims are telling the truth, even though I also firmly believe that anyone accused of a crime is innocent until proven guilty. I do feel a bit conflicted about names being out in the public domain, given the whole trial by media thing, although I know this encourages more potential victims to come forward. Not sure if there is an answer to this conundrum in the modern world of twitter, facebook etc.

I couldn't agree more.

I know second hand of a guy (45) who was wrongly accused of "grooming “under age boys who took his own life. Two years later the victim admitted to lying & stated that he disliked the gentleman but had personal issues at the time. Survived by a really lovely wife & two daughters under 10.

I don't know the answer either but I'd go for anyone who touched my kids.

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Post  cyprussyd on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:50 pm

Max Clifford Arrested By Detectives Investigating Jimmy Savile Sex Abuse Allegations

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Post  silvers on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:51 pm

Noddy and Big Ears probably next ...........

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Post  cyprussyd on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:53 pm

silvers wrote:Noddy and Big Ears probably next ...........

Slade yes but I'm shocked at Liniker

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Post  silvers on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:56 pm

I'm at a loss how such things are swept under the carpet for sooooooooooooooooo longgggggggggggg .........

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Post  commachio on Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:07 pm

Ffs stitched up




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Post  commachio on Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:40 am

Stu Hall arrested, for playing..



































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Post  commachio on Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:23 am

Jimmy Savile sexually abused dying hospice patients, detectives are expected to reveal.

The late TV star also used the cover of his charity work to attack victims at many hospitals around the country, according to a dossier to be published by Scotland Yard.

It marks the end of the police investigation into allegations against Savile alone.

Prosecutors are also expected to offer an explanation over why Savile was never charged after some complaints were investigated during his life.

In the 10-week inquiry launched in October, after a TV documentary exposed Savile as predatory and prolific paedophile, 450 people claimed they were his victims.

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Post  cyprussyd on Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:12 am

Its scary how one man, a rather creepy one at that, could hold so much power. Said before I met him a number of times when I lived in Scarborough, never liked him and he was always just him and his mate/minder/boyfriend, I was never quite sure.

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