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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-08-22, 8:01 am

Simon Grayson will fight to make Sunderland great again: 'Seventy people lost their jobs here in the last year... the players are responsible'



  • Sunderland manager Simon Grayson hopes to 'make a good club great again'

  • The Black Cats boss spoke exclusively to Sportsmail's Ian Ladyman

  • He revealed that he called David Moyes for advice after taking his old job

  • Grayson has challenged his players become a new batch of Sunderland heroes 

  • He also spoke of his desire to personally connect with the club's supporters 


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PUBLISHED: 22:53, 21 August 2017 UPDATED: 23:04, 21 August 2017

Simon Grayson does not strike you as the kind of bloke who would care much for advertising slogans, but he may just have coined one as manager of Sunderland.
'I want to make a good club great again,' he said with a matter-of-fact air on Monday.
After Sunderland's recent troubles, the club may have found itself the right man to move it forward.
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Simon Grayson has told Sportsmail's Ian Ladyman he wants to make Sunderland 'great again'
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Former Leeds boss Grayson, 47, replaced David Moyes as Black Cats manager this summer



Grayson is as straightforward as they come in football. The 47-year-old Yorkshireman was bold enough to ring predecessor David Moyes for advice when he was offered the job.
'He said that somebody would turn Sunderland around and why not me, because he said I was good at what I do,' Grayson told Sportsmail.
Meanwhile, asked this week about whether the players he inherited cared as much as they ought to about the effects of relegation from the Premier League, he did not shirk it.
'Seventy people have lost their jobs from this club in the last year or so,' he said. 'The players are responsible for that because of their performances.
'A very large percentage of the players here will care about that. But yeah, there will be a percentage who aren't too bothered because they are still getting paid. And I don't mean just at this club, I mean throughout football. This club is no different from that point of view.'
Sunderland head to Carlisle in the Carabao Cup on Tuesday night with a new feel about them.
They [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] at the weekend but had previously come through Championship games against Derby, Norwich and Sheffield Wednesday with credit.
Grayson is cautiously optimistic about what he can achieve.
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Straight-talking Grayson has revealed that he called Moyes to ask his predecessor for advice
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Sunderland were beaten by Grayon's former team at the weekend as Leeds won on Wearside 
On a sunny day by the North East coast, he seemed emboldened, and if Sunderland are to make progress it will be on the back of sound principles.
'It's a matter of getting the supporters to smile again and appreciate what the players are doing,' he said.
'This is a working-class city that appreciates hard work. There is nothing worse than a working-class bloke going to watch bad football, because it spoils his weekend.
'Football fans are not daft. They know when people are bluffing them, so the players who come here will be coming here for the right reasons, to play well and work hard.
'They won't be here for the money simply because we haven't got the same resources of other Championship clubs.
'They will earn every penny and will work hard for their shirt, rather than just pick up the money and not give two monkeys about the outcome.'
Grayson was a good, hard-working footballer who won the 1997 League Cup with Leicester. He has managed Blackpool, Leeds, Huddersfield and Preston, but is yet to make the coveted step up to the Premier League.
He admits he faces challenges at Sunderland, most notably a multi-national dressing room containing players at opposite ends of the pay scale.
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It was a frustrating day for Sunderland in front of a 30,000-plus crowd at the Stadium of Light
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But Grayson is positive about his side's chances this season and he believes in a bright future
'Do they all understand dry Yorkshire humour in a foreign language?' he asks, laughing. 'Sometimes, certainly more than they make out. But it's a learning curve for me to get the best out of them, a test.
'I am astonished at some of the wages here. Would I like to play now? No, I don't think so. We got rewards but we could also go out without the scrutiny.
'I have never been motivated by money. Any decision I made was because I thought it was the right thing. It enhanced my career and not my bank balance.
'At Leicester I won the League Cup and was player of the year, but I went to Aston Villa because it was the natural next stage.
'I didn't get paid much more but I have always wanted to test myself and that's why I am here now and not still at Preston, where I was happy and comfortable.
'I have tried to make myself approachable to people here. These supporters pay our wages, so why not engage? I am a down-to-earth bloke who loves his job and feels in a privileged position that I am getting paid for something that many people would love to do.
'So when the schedule allows, we will be going into supporters' branches to talk and have Q&As and let people know we are all in this together.
'People care so much about their club and their city that failure hurts them. That's why people stay loyal through generations and children are not allowed to switch clubs.
'Players and managers all go, but supporters stay.'
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Manager Grayson has challenged his players become a new batch of Sunderland heroes 
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He laughed off a question about Darron Gibson's drunken rant, saying 'There has been banter'
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Sunderland are away to Carlisle United in the second round of the Carabao Cup, sponsored by Carabao Energy Drink, on Tuesday night
A matter of weeks since he took over, the first storm of Grayson's tenure has already blown through. Midfielder [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] including Lamine Kone, Jeremain Lens and Wahbi Khazri did not help his manager.
Grayson said: 'I was driving home when someone called and told me. It was like, 'Wow'. But has it galvanised us and got everybody closer? Possibly, and nobody took offence. There was no sulking from the lads who were caught up in what he said. There has been banter about it.
'It's not an incident we would want to repeat but maybe it has brought us together a little bit. And it's done and gone now.'
Grayson will field a strong team at Carlisle.
'I have won this competition and would love to do so again,' he said.
'There are pictures on the walls here of players winning things and they won't be coming down. I think Howard Wilkinson may have done that at Leeds, but I won't. I want the reminders of the history.
'I tell my players they can be the new batch of heroes. They should want to be the faces on these walls.'


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Post  Hieronymus on 2017-08-22, 11:03 am

Well, whatever I think of Short and the club's hierarchy I feel Grayson's positive and supportive straight talking, unlike Moyes' negative and challenging approach, is winning over many fans. He is certanly saying all the right things, but unlike Bain, I believe he means them. Because Grayson is a football man who is old school, who remembers where he came from, and really understands the passion supporters have for ther club. I just hope he gets the backing he deserves to "make this club great again" Very Happy
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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-08-22, 2:11 pm

He won me over with this..

'Seventy people lost their jobs here in the last year... the players are responsible'

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Post  vinkel on 2017-08-22, 3:01 pm

cyprussyd wrote:He won me over with this..

'Seventy people lost their jobs here in the last year... the players are responsible'
He's a Yorkshireman Syd, a spade is a bloody shovel where he comes from.

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Post  Argus on 2017-08-22, 3:11 pm

cyprussyd wrote:He won me over with this..

'Seventy people lost their jobs here in the last year... the players are responsible'

Me too, I like his no nonsense attitude.

It takes a brave man to put his neck on the line and criticise players publicly for such a delicate matter, even though we all know it's true.

Wouldn't surprise me if the PFA take him to task for criticising players but I don't expect our new man to be bothered by any bullets from them.

Grayson may not have been my first choice but he's winning me over more each day by his honesty and openness.

I only hope fans give him time to sort out our awful mess because it may take longer than we would like.

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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-08-22, 3:35 pm

Argus wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:He won me over with this..

'Seventy people lost their jobs here in the last year... the players are responsible'

Me too, I like his no nonsense attitude.

It takes a brave man to put his neck on the line and criticise players publicly for such a delicate matter, even though we all know it's true.

Wouldn't surprise me if the PFA take him to task for criticising players but I don't expect our new man to be bothered by any bullets from them.

Grayson may not have been my first choice but he's winning me over more each day by his honesty and openness.

I only hope fans give him time to sort out our awful mess because it may take longer than we would like.
And that is the key bit, its not his mess and we can never blame him for it. He has me on his side and my guess is many more will follow.

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Post  sunderpitt on 2017-08-22, 4:05 pm

Money in a football club is important.

Short has been the club's owner for about 10 years and what with expensive buys and below cost sales and high wages, it has cost pa around £20M we are now some £200M in debt £80M to Short and £120M to a bank. Both the bank and Short charge interest in excess of £10M a year. They are the figures as I understand them?

I do not know where the money from the sale of Pickford and others has gone nor the parachute payment from the Premier league....to pay wages?

Having heard Grayson a few times now and seem how he sets teams up and motivates them...he gives me hope. The lad at LB is his only blot in his copy book, but getting Kone up for it and bringing in McGready are big pluses

Now somehow Short has to provide some decent funds for player purchases/loans  (it's rumoured Bruce has snaffled Snodgrass). IMHO dispite the obvious good things Grayson is doing the squad is bereft of numbers and quality. Short wants to sell....no problem with that...he will find it easier to sell a club going well.
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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-08-22, 4:09 pm

sunderpitt wrote:Money in a football club is important.

Short has been the club's owner for about 10 years and what with expensive buys and below cost sales and high wages, it has cost pa around £20M we are now some £200M in debt £80M to Short and £120M to a bank. Both the bank and Short charge interest in excess of £10M a year. They are the figures as I understand them?

I do not know where the money from the sale of Pickford and others has gone nor the parachute payment from the Premier league....to pay wages?

Having heard Grayson a few times now and seem how he sets teams up and motivates them...he gives me hope. The lad at LB is his only blot in his copy book, but getting Kone up for it and bringing in McGready are big pluses

Now somehow Short has to provide some decent funds for player purchases/loans  (it's rumoured Bruce has snaffled Snodgrass). IMHO dispite the obvious good things Grayson is doing the squad is bereft of numbers and quality. Short wants to sell....no problem with that...he will find it easier to sell a club going well.
And Bruce is in the same boat, looking at a loan because he says he has no dosh.

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Post  Hieronymus on 2017-08-22, 10:07 pm

sunderpitt wrote:Money in a football club is important.

Short has been the club's owner for about 10 years and what with expensive buys and below cost sales and high wages, it has cost pa around £20M we are now some £200M in debt £80M to Short and £120M to a bank. Both the bank and Short charge interest in excess of £10M a year. They are the figures as I understand them?

I do not know where the money from the sale of Pickford and others has gone nor the parachute payment from the Premier league....to pay wages?

Having heard Grayson a few times now and seem how he sets teams up and motivates them...he gives me hope. The lad at LB is his only blot in his copy book, but getting Kone up for it and bringing in McGready are big pluses

Now somehow Short has to provide some decent funds for player purchases/loans  (it's rumoured Bruce has snaffled Snodgrass). IMHO dispite the obvious good things Grayson is doing the squad is bereft of numbers and quality. Short wants to sell....no problem with that...he will find it easier to sell a club going well.
Our accounts showed the wage bill for year ending 31st July 2016 was £83m, and can't imagine it was less than that for 2016/17 which may explain where the £99m we got for finishing bottom of the league has gone. Sigh...

I agree that Grayson is doing and saying the right things and taking on the challenge, and that is all we can hope for. He and the players that pull on a SAFC shirt will always have my support even if it is from my sofa.

I also agree that Short, beingt he astute businessman he is, should appreciate that selling a going concern is always easier than flogging a dead horse.
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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-08-23, 8:08 am

Hieronymus wrote:
sunderpitt wrote:Money in a football club is important.

Short has been the club's owner for about 10 years and what with expensive buys and below cost sales and high wages, it has cost pa around £20M we are now some £200M in debt £80M to Short and £120M to a bank. Both the bank and Short charge interest in excess of £10M a year. They are the figures as I understand them?

I do not know where the money from the sale of Pickford and others has gone nor the parachute payment from the Premier league....to pay wages?

Having heard Grayson a few times now and seem how he sets teams up and motivates them...he gives me hope. The lad at LB is his only blot in his copy book, but getting Kone up for it and bringing in McGready are big pluses

Now somehow Short has to provide some decent funds for player purchases/loans  (it's rumoured Bruce has snaffled Snodgrass). IMHO dispite the obvious good things Grayson is doing the squad is bereft of numbers and quality. Short wants to sell....no problem with that...he will find it easier to sell a club going well.
Our accounts showed the wage bill for year ending 31st July 2016 was £83m, and can't imagine it was less than that for 2016/17 which may explain where the £99m we got for finishing bottom of the league has gone. Sigh...

I agree that Grayson is doing and saying the right things and taking on the challenge, and that is all we can hope for. He and the players that pull on a SAFC shirt will always have my support even if it is from my sofa.

I also agree that Short, beingt he astute businessman he is, should appreciate that selling a going concern is always easier than flogging a dead horse.
Can we keep the flogging of horses out of it please, we will be mistaken for Newcastle fans.

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