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Did the rot set in when

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Did the rot set in when

Post  cyprussyd on 2017-07-05, 10:38 am

We lost Cana, Gyan and Bent?

Regardless of how well those three did they sent out a message that Sunderland attracted players who could capture the imagination, Sunderland were on the up.

Steve Bruce, love him or hate him was a name and again sent out a message and was building a team on the up then suddenly, three players wanted out, why?

Bruce was sacked and the downward spiral started with Quinn soon to follow.

But why did a club that looked like going in the right direction suddenly go bad?

It's easy to blame money but there must be more to it, I remember sitting in the east stand with radio Newcastle playing in my ear. The night before it was reported that Gyan and Bruce had met and they had shaken hands, Gyan was staying. Now less than 24 hours later the radio were reporting he had gone, why?

Earlier I had enjoyed the Wear/Tyne derby but by the time I got home Bent was sitting in a Birmingham hotel and would be gone next day, why?

If we had kept Bruce we may have gone down and be back up now, its all if's and but's.

We have now hopefully ended the downward spiral but it should never have reached this rock bottom broken state.

Reid and Bruce both took us to dizzy heights but in the end both were sacked and misery followed, the question is will we ever learn?

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Post  sunderpitt on 2017-07-05, 10:44 am

The rot set on when we lost good players and brought in crap  replacements over several years. Bent, Gyan  The Manure lad 
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Post  Kipper on 2017-07-05, 11:29 am

cyprussyd wrote:We lost Cana, Gyan and Bent?

Regardless of how well those three did they sent out a message that Sunderland attracted players who could capture the imagination, Sunderland were on the up.

Steve Bruce, love him or hate him was a name and again sent out a message and was building a team on the up then suddenly, three players wanted out, why?

Bruce was sacked and the downward spiral started with Quinn soon to follow.

But why did a club that looked like going in the right direction suddenly go bad?

It's easy to blame money but there must be more to it, I remember sitting in the east stand with radio Newcastle playing in my ear. The night before it was reported that Gyan and Bruce had met and they had shaken hands, Gyan was staying. Now less than 24 hours later the radio were reporting he had gone, why?

Earlier I had enjoyed the Wear/Tyne derby but by the time I got home Bent was sitting in a Birmingham hotel and would be gone next day, why?

If we had kept Bruce we may have gone down and be back up now, its all if's and but's.

We have now hopefully ended the downward spiral but it should never have reached this rock bottom broken state.

Reid and Bruce both took us to dizzy heights but in the end both were sacked and misery followed, the question is will we ever learn?

Maybe they left because of Bruce - now I know that's not the only reason - but maybe it was a factor. The level of the players we had then were a step up from Bruce. He's a good Championship manager but really not that impressive as a Premiership manager. He made some good signings but our 10th place under him I feel was more in spite of him rather than because of him. I'm pretty sure we would have been relegated under him and who knows what would have followed.

So many decisions have been made that have turned out to be wronguns and it's all culminated in where we are now. The first problems were not being able to replace those players with quality. We soon found out where doing things on the cheap got us. Investment in quality is key. Syphoning off the money from player sales elsewhere does not work for the benefit of the team. Decades ago Norwich used to do this all the time. They'd have a series of very good players come through, all sold to bigger clubs for profit which was not reinvested in the team - the Chairman thought this the quality players would keep appearing out of nowhere but it all dried up and they've struggled ever since.

Now at Sunderland, it concerns me that the manager won't have all of the Pickford money but we might just have the manager to pull it off. If we do get promoted in the next couple of years then investment in the team is an absolute must.
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Post  silvers on 2017-07-05, 12:05 pm

.. yes, and where does that investment come from ?
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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-07-05, 12:31 pm

silvers wrote:.. yes, and where does that investment come from ?
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Post  silvers on 2017-07-05, 12:42 pm

..I think that is to finance the debt, to reduce interest charges...
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