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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-04-11, 11:35 am

The last 24 hours has been an awakening for me when I contrast Palace under Big Sam and Sunderland under our present regime from Short down.

I am and always have been a big Sam fan but I accept he is last seasons news, that said I could not help but to be a tad envious watching Palace beat Arsenal last night. Yes they have better players but they also have the drive, work rate and commitment
last season under Sam.

In contrast I read today's news and all I see are players who are unhappy with more gloom ahead.

I love my football club and will never desert it but yes it is possible to love but not like, right now I don't like and that hurts me far more than it will ever hurt those in charge.

What do I need?


  1. Short to confirm that yes he wants out but until then he will back the manager and club, it's his responsibility.
  2. Bain to come out and explain his plan for my club, how he intends to fix it.
  3. Moyes to come out and convince me he wants to be here and how he intends to fix the team and turn them into winners.



I wont hold my breath, I dont expect any of the above, after all, I am just a paying fan of over 50 years, why should I expect to be considered.

All that said I will be there oin Saturday, why?

  1. I still enjoy my day out despite the football.
  2. I refuse to be driven out of my club my an American and his gang.



KTF & FTM
(THE SECOND IS FAR EASIER THAN THE FIRST)

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Post  canary-dave on 2017-04-11, 11:39 am

cyprussyd wrote:The last 24 hours has been an awakening for me when I contrast Palace under Big Sam and Sunderland under our present regime from Short down.

I am and always have been a big Sam fan but I accept he is last seasons news, that said I could not help but to be a tad envious watching Palace beat Arsenal last night. Yes they have better players but they also have the drive, work rate and commitment we had last season under Sam.

In contrast I read today's news and all I see are players who are unhappy with more gloom ahead.

I love my football club and will never desert it but yes it is possible to love but not like, right now I don't like and that hurts me far more than it will ever hurt those in charge.

What do I need?


  1. Short to confirm that yes he wants out but until then he will back the manager and club, it's his responsibility.
  2. Bain to come out and explain his plan for my club, how he intends to fix it.
  3. Moyes to come out and convince me he wants to be here and how he intends to fix the team and turn them into winners.



I wont hold my breath, I dont expect any of the above, after all, I am just a paying fan of over 50 years, why should I expect to be considered.

All that said I will be there oin Saturday, why?

  1. I still enjoy my day out despite the football.
  2. I refuse to be driven out of my club my an American and his gang.



KTF & FTM
(THE SECOND IS FAR EASIER THAN THE FIRST)
APPL APPL APPL APPL

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Post  Silvers on 2017-04-11, 12:43 pm

Yes, I thought that too when I watched the Palace game..

100% for the full 90 minutes and with some guile too - a quality of which WE have zero!

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Post  Kipper on 2017-04-11, 2:04 pm

I doubt big Sam could revive us now. It took him ages the last time and we had some better players then and more available. I've seen Sunderland put in far less effort than they are now (under Advocaat for example - Home to Norwich). But alas, I think the players now know what we know - they're just not good enough to stay up.
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Post  MrRAWhite on 2017-04-11, 3:21 pm

It is bloody hard being a Sunderland fan right now, and sadly Moyes and the club set up do not fill me with any confidence that things will change any time soon..

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Post  sunderpitt on 2017-04-11, 3:28 pm

MrRAWhite wrote:It is bloody hard being a Sunderland fan right now, and sadly Moyes and the club set up do not fill me with any confidence that things will change any time soon..

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Post  Silvers on 2017-04-11, 3:46 pm

Yes, I feel we have a few canny-hard winters to come...
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Post  vinkel on 2017-04-11, 4:14 pm

Syd, though i didn’t see any of last nights game one thing i believe is that Sam and his players know where they will be next season. Whereas Moyes and quite a few of our players don't know where they will be. And most of them don't give a damn anymore.

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Post  Billy D on 2017-04-11, 4:30 pm

vinkel wrote:Syd, though i didn’t see any of last nights game one thing i believe is that Sam and his players know where they will be next season. Whereas Moyes and quite a few of our players don't know where they will be. And most of them don't give a damn anymore.
We all know they'll be mate.
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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-04-11, 4:56 pm

Billy D wrote:
vinkel wrote:Syd, though i didn’t see any of last nights game one thing i believe is that Sam and his players know where they will be next season. Whereas Moyes and quite a few of our players don't know where they will be. And most of them don't give a damn anymore.
We all know they'll be mate.
Dont think he meant division more club

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Post  Billy D on 2017-04-11, 4:57 pm

cyprussyd wrote:
Billy D wrote:
vinkel wrote:Syd, though i didn’t see any of last nights game one thing i believe is that Sam and his players know where they will be next season. Whereas Moyes and quite a few of our players don't know where they will be. And most of them don't give a damn anymore.
We all know they'll be mate.
Dont think he meant division more club
Oh right - picked it up wrong.
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Post  Kipper on 2017-04-12, 8:22 am

Fact remains Crystal Palace have got a lot more Premiership quality players than us. I don't go to every game but from what I've seen, the lack of effort isn't the problem, it's lack of quality. Maybe there is an air amongst the players though, of knowing where they belong.
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Post  gil t azell on 2017-04-12, 6:39 pm

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Post  Roker roar on 2017-04-13, 12:25 am

cyprussyd wrote:The last 24 hours has been an awakening for me when I contrast Palace under Big Sam and Sunderland under our present regime from Short down.

I am and always have been a big Sam fan but I accept he is last seasons news, that said I could not help but to be a tad envious watching Palace beat Arsenal last night. Yes they have better players but they also have the drive, work rate and commitment
last season under Sam.

In contrast I read today's news and all I see are players who are unhappy with more gloom ahead.

I love my football club and will never desert it but yes it is possible to love but not like, right now I don't like and that hurts me far more than it will ever hurt those in charge.

What do I need?


  1. Short to confirm that yes he wants out but until then he will back the manager and club, it's his responsibility.
  2. Bain to come out and explain his plan for my club, how he intends to fix it.
  3. Moyes to come out and convince me he wants to be here and how he intends to fix the team and turn them into winners.



I wont hold my breath, I dont expect any of the above, after all, I am just a paying fan of over 50 years, why should I expect to be considered.

All that said I will be there oin Saturday, why?

  1. I still enjoy my day out despite the football.
  2. I refuse to be driven out of my club my an American and his gang.



KTF & FTM
(THE SECOND IS FAR EASIER THAN THE FIRST)
All three have happened.....

Short confirmed ages ago the club is up for sale.

Bains was interviewed and basically said there was nothing in the coffers.

Moyes has refuted comments and speculation he will resign and the board backed him unconditionally 

Our beloved club is on a downward spiral....the only grace being if the u21's can produce as there's f*ck all to spend....Mr short has seen to that bless him.
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Post  talcnturnip on 2017-04-13, 6:02 am

Mind changed after the Southampton game mate, saw nothing at all in that game to sway me onto the margic carpet of hope.

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