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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-03-17, 12:29 pm

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Sunderland simply must add to Burnley’s away-day blues



It is true that the worst-case scenario for Sunderland involves Burnley winning away from home for the first time this season. Given that Sean Dyche’s side have picked up only two points on the road, perhaps it is unlikely to materialise. Yet if events conspire against Sunderland this weekend, they could find themselves nine points off a safe position with 10 matches left. Mathematically they would still be in with a chance of staying up. Realistically, however, they will be all but down if they subject their long-suffering supporters to another grim afternoon at the Stadium of Light on Saturday. Sunderland have lost their past three matches, scoring none and conceding eight, and victory over Burnley would not be enough to lift them off the foot of the table. But they simply have to win. Otherwise they can start planning for life in the Championship. JS


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Post  sunderpitt on 2017-03-17, 1:05 pm

cyprussyd wrote:
sunderpitt wrote:

Sunderland simply must add to Burnley’s away-day blues





It is true that the worst-case scenario for Sunderland involves Burnley winning away from home for the first time this season. Given that Sean Dyche’s side have picked up only two points on the road, perhaps it is unlikely to materialise. Yet if events conspire against Sunderland this weekend, they could find themselves nine points off a safe position with 10 matches left. Mathematically they would still be in with a chance of staying up. Realistically, however, they will be all but down if they subject their long-suffering supporters to another grim afternoon at the Stadium of Light on Saturday. Sunderland have lost their past three matches, scoring none and conceding eight, and victory over Burnley would not be enough to lift them off the foot of the table. But they simply have to win. Otherwise they can start planning for life in the Championship. JS


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100% correct, I am not looking forward to this game

Nor am I looking forward to sitting there watching the game.

As a rugby fan I am setting to record the Ireland v England game, a very tense game for England which unlike our football team could set 2 great records. if heaven forbid, we go a couple down I may even leave early, especially as the rugby starts at 5.00 pm. However if we are winning or are drawing I will be staying
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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-03-17, 1:16 pm

sunderpitt wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:
sunderpitt wrote:

Sunderland simply must add to Burnley’s away-day blues







It is true that the worst-case scenario for Sunderland involves Burnley winning away from home for the first time this season. Given that Sean Dyche’s side have picked up only two points on the road, perhaps it is unlikely to materialise. Yet if events conspire against Sunderland this weekend, they could find themselves nine points off a safe position with 10 matches left. Mathematically they would still be in with a chance of staying up. Realistically, however, they will be all but down if they subject their long-suffering supporters to another grim afternoon at the Stadium of Light on Saturday. Sunderland have lost their past three matches, scoring none and conceding eight, and victory over Burnley would not be enough to lift them off the foot of the table. But they simply have to win. Otherwise they can start planning for life in the Championship. JS


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100% correct, I am not looking forward to this game

Nor am I looking forward to sitting there watching the game.

As a rugby fan I am setting to record the Ireland v England game, a very tense game for England which unlike our football team could set 2 great records. if heaven forbid, we go a couple down I may even leave early, especially as the rugby starts at 5.00 pm. However if we are winning or are drawing I will be staying
2 down and a collapse will see a mass walk out IMO

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Re: SUNDERLAND V BURNLEY..Match Day Thread

Post  Hieronymus on 2017-03-17, 1:41 pm

cyprussyd wrote:
sunderpitt wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:
sunderpitt wrote:

Sunderland simply must add to Burnley’s away-day blues









It is true that the worst-case scenario for Sunderland involves Burnley winning away from home for the first time this season. Given that Sean Dyche’s side have picked up only two points on the road, perhaps it is unlikely to materialise. Yet if events conspire against Sunderland this weekend, they could find themselves nine points off a safe position with 10 matches left. Mathematically they would still be in with a chance of staying up. Realistically, however, they will be all but down if they subject their long-suffering supporters to another grim afternoon at the Stadium of Light on Saturday. Sunderland have lost their past three matches, scoring none and conceding eight, and victory over Burnley would not be enough to lift them off the foot of the table. But they simply have to win. Otherwise they can start planning for life in the Championship. JS


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100% correct, I am not looking forward to this game

Nor am I looking forward to sitting there watching the game.

As a rugby fan I am setting to record the Ireland v England game, a very tense game for England which unlike our football team could set 2 great records. if heaven forbid, we go a couple down I may even leave early, especially as the rugby starts at 5.00 pm. However if we are winning or are drawing I will be staying
2 down and a collapse will see a mass walk out IMO
Stop it you two!!! red

We will win on Saturday finger cross
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Re: SUNDERLAND V BURNLEY..Match Day Thread

Post  cyprussyd on 2017-03-17, 1:50 pm

Hieronymus wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:
sunderpitt wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:
sunderpitt wrote:

Sunderland simply must add to Burnley’s away-day blues











It is true that the worst-case scenario for Sunderland involves Burnley winning away from home for the first time this season. Given that Sean Dyche’s side have picked up only two points on the road, perhaps it is unlikely to materialise. Yet if events conspire against Sunderland this weekend, they could find themselves nine points off a safe position with 10 matches left. Mathematically they would still be in with a chance of staying up. Realistically, however, they will be all but down if they subject their long-suffering supporters to another grim afternoon at the Stadium of Light on Saturday. Sunderland have lost their past three matches, scoring none and conceding eight, and victory over Burnley would not be enough to lift them off the foot of the table. But they simply have to win. Otherwise they can start planning for life in the Championship. JS


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100% correct, I am not looking forward to this game

Nor am I looking forward to sitting there watching the game.

As a rugby fan I am setting to record the Ireland v England game, a very tense game for England which unlike our football team could set 2 great records. if heaven forbid, we go a couple down I may even leave early, especially as the rugby starts at 5.00 pm. However if we are winning or are drawing I will be staying
2 down and a collapse will see a mass walk out IMO
Stop it you two!!! red

We will win on Saturday finger cross
I'm sure we will but, sitting in the Stadium waiting for the win will be a hard tense afternoon.

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Post  sunderpitt on 2017-03-17, 2:54 pm

Just to add to the joy for Saturday....apparently Kirchhoff is out for the rest of the season
..his knee has swollen up again...probably will not play for us again...
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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-03-17, 3:14 pm

Another massive blow for SAFC.


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Post  Hieronymus on 2017-03-17, 4:31 pm

cyprussyd wrote:Another massive blow for SAFC.


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Sunderland have been left rocked by the news that Jan Kirchhoff has been left facing a fight to play again this season.

The German made his return for the U23's against Manchester United but his knee suffered from swelling immediately after the game. Kirchhoff completed 60 minutes in that match.
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Kirchhoff faces a race to play again this season

 
David Moyes has now said that the German faces a minimum of four weeks on the sidelines as he deals with the latest injury blow to rock the club.


Kirchhoff had been expected to make his first team return in a key game against Burnley on Saturday.

Moyes is confident that his knee will heal, but perhaps not in time to make a significant contribution to Sunderland's relegation fight.
Moyes said: "Jan has unfortunately had a reccurence of his knee problem and it looks like it is going to keep him out for a minimum of four weeks.
"He came back and played in the reserves against Manchester United about two weeks ago, his knee swelled up immediatley after the game.
"He only trained for a couple of days and then pulled out. He has been back to see the surgeon and I don't think there is any damage, but it is going to take longer than we thought to heal.


"He had some [injury] problems before he came, he had some periods that he missed out. I genuinely think his knee will heal up, it will just take a little more time – and we are running out of time.
"We had arranged a behind-closed-doors game for him this week, we also had a reserve game last Sunday that he couldn't play in.
"We haven't been able to use him since he played 60mins in that game [against Man U].
"He has been told at the moment that it will be at least another four weeks.


"I don't know where that takes us to, but it might be too close to the end of the season.
"We might be able to use him in one or two games, but we will have to see."
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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-03-17, 6:10 pm

With the latest injury jinx I think Moyes will start by trying to stop Burnley scoring, a back 3. If Burnley score heads will drop and it could be all over.

Who makes way, well take your pick but I think it will be Borini.

So the team I expect to see is..

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KONE    OSHEA   DJILOBOJI
JONES         NDONG  GIBSON LARSSON OVIEDO
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Post  oldblackcat on 2017-03-18, 6:45 am

cyprussyd wrote:With the latest injury jinx I think Moyes will start by trying to stop Burnley scoring, a back 3. If Burnley score heads will drop and it could be all over.

Who makes way, well take your pick but I think it will be Borini.

So the team I expect to see is..

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JONES         NDONG  GIBSON LARSSON OVIEDO
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Manonne, Rodwell, Borini, Denayer, Lescott, Love, Khazri

I would have Denayer in for Djilibodji....other than that I think you may have predicted the team Smile
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Post  sunderpitt on 2017-03-18, 8:01 am

For some reason the tune "today is the day the teddy bears have their picnic" is echoing in my head.

Has the strain of supporting Sunderland finally got to.me ?
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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-03-18, 9:57 am

Well the first of our "D" day games is here and a very tense afternoon awaits.

We have a full bus going and everywhere is full except the premier concourse so a good crowd will be there, lets hope we have something to cheer.

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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-03-18, 11:12 am

Moyes also ominously warned that there could be another blow or two when the teams are announced at 2pm for today’s critical Stadium of Light clash with Burnley. He said: “We’ve got one or two other injuries around, but I’m keeping my cards close to my chest.” 


Further injuries would be a major blow to a side fighting to stay in touch at the bottom of the Premier League. The Wearsiders are six points adrift of safety going into the visit of Sean Dyche’s Clarets. 


Moyes can at least hold onto some hope that Victor Anichebe and Lee Cattermole can feature in a crucial April fixture list, with the Nigerian striker currently receiving specialist treatment in America. Moyes said: “We’ve sent him to work with a specialist in America. “He should be back very shortly – he comes back this weekend. He’s running and back on it. “Sending him to someone we thought we could work with him one on one, it looks like it is working. “My aim is to get Victor back for as much of the month of April as I can. I can’t guarantee that, but we’re doing everything we can.


 “Lee Cattermole is back doing some running. With a bit of luck, in a couple of weeks, he could be closer to getting involved. Steven Pienaar is not too far away.” Kirchhoff’s setback, following a run-out for the Under-23s 12 days ago, leaves Moyes again facing a selection dilemma in midfield. The Sunderland boss should be able to call upon Jack Rodwell, with Seb Larsson, Didier Ndong and Darron Gibson competing for the other two spots. One other option for Moyes is to bring Jason Denayer back in front of the back four, in an attempt to prevent his defence being cut open as it was when Burnley outgunned Sunderland 4-1 at Turf Moor on New Year’s Eve. That defensive midfield position will be a problem long-term with Kirchhoff’s latest blow. Moyes said: “He had some problems before he came, he had some periods that he missed out. I genuinely think his knee will heal up, it will just take a little more time – and we are running out of time. “He has been told at the moment that it will be at least another four weeks. “I don’t know where that takes us to, but it might be too close to the end of the season. “We might be able to use him in one or two games, but we will have to see. “I hope it won’t be the end of his season and maybe the international break (Sunderland do not play again until April 1 after today’s match) will give him another chance.”

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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-03-18, 6:43 pm

Well my glass is draining but we tried, had chances but again could not take them and again it cost us.
But on we go with hope but its getting hard now.

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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-03-18, 6:47 pm

Dear Sundermaders
"It was disappointing that we didn’t take three points because there were some good things that we made.
It was a bit scrappy at times; I can’t say we played overly well, but I think Burnley make you play that way and they drag you into the sort of game that you don’t want.
I thought our performance was better in the second half. We had been too passive, but I certainly thought we had some chances to score.
Unfortunately the point we’ve got today isn’t enough, but we have to use it as a positive.
Today was one of the draws that I had down as a win, but we now have to turn one of the draws I had in mind into a win, so let’s hope we can do that.
We didn’t lose, but we know it was a real chance to get three points on the board.
We have to move on and hopefully after the international break it’ll give us the chance to get the players that we are missing back and hopefully in contention."
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Post  Hieronymus on 2017-03-18, 7:09 pm

cyprussyd wrote:Dear Sundermaders
"It was disappointing that we didn’t take three points because there were some good things that we made.
It was a bit scrappy at times; I can’t say we played overly well, but I think Burnley make you play that way and they drag you into the sort of game that you don’t want.
I thought our performance was better in the second half. We had been too passive, but I certainly thought we had some chances to score.
Unfortunately the point we’ve got today isn’t enough, but we have to use it as a positive.
Today was one of the draws that I had down as a win, but we now have to turn one of the draws I had in mind into a win, so let’s hope we can do that.
We didn’t lose, but we know it was a real chance to get three points on the board.
We have to move on and hopefully after the international break it’ll give us the chance to get the players that we are missing back and hopefully in contention."
David Moyes
Depressing, with terrible grammar, and makes my now less than half full glass drain almost all away Mad

"... there were some good things that we made" - What does that even mean?


"I think...." and "... hopefully..." - Too many of these. You, as the manager, should be saying what you KNOW and are CERTAIN of!!!


"The point we’ve got today isn’t enough, but we have to use it as a positive" - How exactly is being 7 points behind 17th place after this result in any way a positive?


Does SAFC not have a press officer that can proof read and make anyything published in the name of the club read like a grown up wrote it?

It is all so amateurish. The 41000+ fans that went there today and the thousands of others listening and watching elsewhere deserve far better. Twisted Evil
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Post  Nostalgic on 2017-03-18, 7:11 pm

Not able to see game live but will watch later today,only consolation is that we got a point against one of those annoying teams that have tied better teams up this season.

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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-03-18, 7:12 pm

Hieronymus wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:Dear Sundermaders
"It was disappointing that we didn’t take three points because there were some good things that we made.
It was a bit scrappy at times; I can’t say we played overly well, but I think Burnley make you play that way and they drag you into the sort of game that you don’t want.
I thought our performance was better in the second half. We had been too passive, but I certainly thought we had some chances to score.
Unfortunately the point we’ve got today isn’t enough, but we have to use it as a positive.
Today was one of the draws that I had down as a win, but we now have to turn one of the draws I had in mind into a win, so let’s hope we can do that.
We didn’t lose, but we know it was a real chance to get three points on the board.
We have to move on and hopefully after the international break it’ll give us the chance to get the players that we are missing back and hopefully in contention."
David Moyes
Depressing, with terrible grammar, and makes my now less than half full glass drain almost all away Mad

"... there were some good things that we made" - What does that even mean?


"I think...." and "... hopefully..." - Too many of these. You, as the manager, should be saying what you KNOW and are CERTAIN of!!!


"The point we’ve got today isn’t enough, but we have to use it as a positive" - How exactly is being 7 points behind 17th place after this result in any way a positive?


Does SAFC not have a press officer that can proof read and make anyything published in the name of the club read like a grown up wrote it?

It is all so amateurish. The 41000+ fans that went there today and the thousands of others listening and watching elsewhere deserve far better. Twisted Evil
We are 7 behind with a game in hand so all is not lost.

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Post  Black Cat Kiwi on 2017-03-18, 7:25 pm

Hieronymus wrote:Depressing, with terrible grammar, and makes my now less than half full glass drain almost all away Mad 
"... there were some good things that we made" - What does that even mean?


"I think...." and "... hopefully..." - Too many of these. You, as the manager, should be saying what you KNOW and are CERTAIN of!!!


"The point we’ve got today isn’t enough, but we have to use it as a positive" - How exactly is being 7 points behind 17th place after this result in any way a positive?


Does SAFC not have a press officer that can proof read and make anyything published in the name of the club read like a grown up wrote it?

It is all so amateurish. The 41000+ fans that went there today and the thousands of others listening and watching elsewhere deserve far better. Twisted Evil

I'm sure the next one written from SAFC will grammatically read correctly.

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Post  Kipper on 2017-03-18, 7:53 pm

Hieronymus wrote:
cyprussyd wrote:Dear Sundermaders
"It was disappointing that we didn’t take three points because there were some good things that we made.
It was a bit scrappy at times; I can’t say we played overly well, but I think Burnley make you play that way and they drag you into the sort of game that you don’t want.
I thought our performance was better in the second half. We had been too passive, but I certainly thought we had some chances to score.
Unfortunately the point we’ve got today isn’t enough, but we have to use it as a positive.
Today was one of the draws that I had down as a win, but we now have to turn one of the draws I had in mind into a win, so let’s hope we can do that.
We didn’t lose, but we know it was a real chance to get three points on the board.
We have to move on and hopefully after the international break it’ll give us the chance to get the players that we are missing back and hopefully in contention."
David Moyes
Depressing, with terrible grammar, and makes my now less than half full glass drain almost all away Mad

"... there were some good things that we made" - What does that even mean?


"I think...." and "... hopefully..." - Too many of these. You, as the manager, should be saying what you KNOW and are CERTAIN of!!!


"The point we’ve got today isn’t enough, but we have to use it as a positive" - How exactly is being 7 points behind 17th place after this result in any way a positive?


Does SAFC not have a press officer that can proof read and make anyything published in the name of the club read like a grown up wrote it?

It is all so amateurish. The 41000+ fans that went there today and the thousands of others listening and watching elsewhere deserve far better. Twisted Evil

Give him a break, that's just lifted straight from his interview after the game. I listened to it on my way home. I don't disagree with anything he's said. yes it was very disappointing we didn't take our chances but there just isn't the quality in this depleted side. Not the fault of Moyes. And when it come to being hopeful about injuries - what else can you be? i'm less optimistic about our chances now but not given up altogether and I actually enjoyed the game today. I was sure we were going to score but Borini is just not up to it unfortunately. Jones fluffed hislines as well but then he is a defender.It was not a dismal performance all round so I can't get too depressed.
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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-03-18, 8:19 pm

Kipper wrote:
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cyprussyd wrote:Dear Sundermaders
"It was disappointing that we didn’t take three points because there were some good things that we made.
It was a bit scrappy at times; I can’t say we played overly well, but I think Burnley make you play that way and they drag you into the sort of game that you don’t want.
I thought our performance was better in the second half. We had been too passive, but I certainly thought we had some chances to score.
Unfortunately the point we’ve got today isn’t enough, but we have to use it as a positive.
Today was one of the draws that I had down as a win, but we now have to turn one of the draws I had in mind into a win, so let’s hope we can do that.
We didn’t lose, but we know it was a real chance to get three points on the board.
We have to move on and hopefully after the international break it’ll give us the chance to get the players that we are missing back and hopefully in contention."
David Moyes
Depressing, with terrible grammar, and makes my now less than half full glass drain almost all away Mad

"... there were some good things that we made" - What does that even mean?


"I think...." and "... hopefully..." - Too many of these. You, as the manager, should be saying what you KNOW and are CERTAIN of!!!


"The point we’ve got today isn’t enough, but we have to use it as a positive" - How exactly is being 7 points behind 17th place after this result in any way a positive?


Does SAFC not have a press officer that can proof read and make anyything published in the name of the club read like a grown up wrote it?

It is all so amateurish. The 41000+ fans that went there today and the thousands of others listening and watching elsewhere deserve far better. Twisted Evil

Give him a break, that's just lifted  straight from his interview after the game. I listened  to it on my way home. I don't disagree with anything he's said. yes it was very disappointing we didn't take our chances  but there just isn't the quality in this  depleted side. Not the fault of Moyes. And when it come  to being hopeful about injuries - what else  can you be? i'm less optimistic about our chances now but not given up altogether and I actually enjoyed the game today. I was sure we were going to score but Borini is just not up to it unfortunately. Jones fluffed hislines as well but then he is a defender.It was  not a dismal performance  all round so I can't get too depressed.
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Post  sunderpitt on 2017-03-18, 8:55 pm

Created chances did not take them...when an open goal presented itself for a Billy Jones header and he missed it...that was our season
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Post  cyprussyd on 2017-03-18, 9:01 pm

sunderpitt wrote:Created chances did not take them...when an open goal presented itself for a Billy Jones header and he missed it...that was our season
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Post  Hieronymus on 2017-03-18, 11:53 pm

Just watched the highlghts on MOTD and my almost empty glass has filled up to half way once more. Cannot fault the effort (at least in second half) and once again we were really unlucky and could have had a couple of goals with a fair wind, although Burnley had a few decent chances too. Hope is still alive Very Happy
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Post  silvers on 2017-03-19, 12:15 am

.. just a flicker , but yes, hope still there whilst we remain within distance of Swansea.

3 from 4 now I think..
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