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Post  cyprussyd on 2015-04-13, 12:19 pm

Taken from the 1973 banter page on facebook, do you agree?


Often, the difference between a football fan and a supporter is ticked off as the same concept which is a mistaken ideology. The difference between the 2 terms is principally based on a person's interest on learning the legacies, rivalries and the traditions of a particular club. 
So in essence, a fan is simply someone who casually watches a match regardless of the club's ideologies and worries generally about the outcome of the match. On the other hand, a supporter is a person who honours and respects the club's traditions and sticks with the club at all times irrespective of the outcome of its matches.
Are you a supporter???? 

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Post  Hieronymus on 2015-04-13, 1:05 pm

I disagree with the definitions. 

Fan comes from 'Fanatic' so fans are the ones that pore over statistics; collect programmes and other memorabilia, care passionately about the history and traditions etc., and stick with their club through thick and thin (and so thin it is only a molecule thick in SAFC's case!) without concern for how much time and money they spend doing so. For example I would say that the two Newcastle lads, killed over Ukraine on flight MH17, were fans as they were literally prepared to go to the other side of the world, for a friendly match, to follow their team.

On the other hand, supporters can be more casual. While they do care about results, have some knowledge of the history and achievements of the club and worry about the team and how they play, they realise there is more to life than football and are not prepared to go to excessive trouble or expense to follow them. That is me I am afraid!

So I am a supporter by my definition, but a fan by the one in the OP.  Laughing
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Post  cyprussyd on 2015-04-13, 1:19 pm

Hieronymus wrote:I disagree with the definitions. 

Fan comes from 'Fanatic' so fans are the ones that pore over statistics; collect programmes and other memorabilia, care passionately about the history and traditions etc., and stick with their club through thick and thin (and so thin it is only a molecule thick in SAFC's case!) without concern for how much time and money they spend doing so. For example I would say that the two Newcastle lads, killed over Ukraine on flight MH17, were fans as they were literally prepared to go to the other side of the world, for a friendly match, to follow their team.

On the other hand, supporters can be more casual. While they do care about results, have some knowledge of the history and achievements of the club and worry about the team and how they play, they realise there is more to life than football and are not prepared to go to excessive trouble or expense to follow them. That is me I am afraid!

So I am a supporter by my definition, but a fan by the one in the OP.  Laughing
H, I think I agree with your definition but I have no idea what I am. I go to all home games and will be there for the last two, read and talk about Sunderland all day, collect nothing and now enjoy the day out far more than the game.

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Post  Guest on 2015-04-14, 4:44 pm

Hieronymus wrote:I disagree with the definitions. 

Fan comes from 'Fanatic' so fans are the ones that pore over statistics; collect programmes and other memorabilia, care passionately about the history and traditions etc., and stick with their club through thick and thin (and so thin it is only a molecule thick in SAFC's case!) without concern for how much time and money they spend doing so. For example I would say that the two Newcastle lads, killed over Ukraine on flight MH17, were fans as they were literally prepared to go to the other side of the world, for a friendly match, to follow their team.

On the other hand, supporters can be more casual. While they do care about results, have some knowledge of the history and achievements of the club and worry about the team and how they play, they realise there is more to life than football and are not prepared to go to excessive trouble or expense to follow them. That is me I am afraid!

So I am a supporter by my definition, but a fan by the one in the OP.  Laughing

I think you're right about the fan (fanatical). However, I think supporters are those who physicals follow the team and go to matches. Most people can describe themselves as fans and supporters. However, fanatically you may be about the club you may not be able to go to SoL (or away games) to support the lads...
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Post  cyprussyd on 2015-04-14, 4:46 pm

Siddall wrote:
Hieronymus wrote:I disagree with the definitions. 

Fan comes from 'Fanatic' so fans are the ones that pore over statistics; collect programmes and other memorabilia, care passionately about the history and traditions etc., and stick with their club through thick and thin (and so thin it is only a molecule thick in SAFC's case!) without concern for how much time and money they spend doing so. For example I would say that the two Newcastle lads, killed over Ukraine on flight MH17, were fans as they were literally prepared to go to the other side of the world, for a friendly match, to follow their team.

On the other hand, supporters can be more casual. While they do care about results, have some knowledge of the history and achievements of the club and worry about the team and how they play, they realise there is more to life than football and are not prepared to go to excessive trouble or expense to follow them. That is me I am afraid!

So I am a supporter by my definition, but a fan by the one in the OP.  Laughing

I think you're right about the fan (fanatical). However, I think supporters are those who physicals follow the team and go to matches. Most people can describe themselves as fans and supporters. However, fanatically you may be about the club you may not be able to go to SoL (or away games) to support the lads...
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Post  Guest on 2015-04-14, 6:22 pm

Shocked Grockle...
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Post  cyprussyd on 2015-04-14, 6:30 pm

Siddall wrote:Shocked Grockle...
Grockle' is an informal and often slightly derogatory term for a tourist. It was first popularized because of its use by the characters in the film The System (1964), .

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Post  Guest on 2015-04-14, 6:31 pm

Well I don't see any difference tbh.
Some people work/live away. Some might work weekend shifts. Some can't afford to go.
Does that make them love the club any less than those who go home & away?
Not in my opinion it doesn't.
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Post  cyprussyd on 2015-04-14, 6:41 pm

I think it is beyond any argument that the very best fans/supporters go to all home games but miss some cup games. Never go to away games, sit quietly in the East Stand and go on nights out.

All the rest are just glory hunters

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Post  Hieronymus on 2015-04-14, 7:18 pm

cyprussyd wrote:I think it is beyond any argument that the very best fans/supporters go to all home games but miss some cup games. Never go to away games, sit quietly in the East Stand and go on nights out.

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Post  trouble_n_stripes on 2015-04-14, 8:21 pm

I would say a supporter is someone who actually goes to see their team play, does not have to be
week in week out but makes the effort to go.

A fan to me is someone who has an avid interest in a particular club but are unable to go and
support that club due to circumstances.
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