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Post  cyprussyd on 2014-10-19, 9:30 am

[size=32]Internet trolls face up to two years in jail under new laws[/size]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Chris Grayling said he wanted to tackle the 'baying cyber-mob'
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Internet trolls could face up to two years in jail under new laws, Justice Secretary Chris Grayling has said.
He told the Mail on Sunday quadrupling the current maximum six-month term showed his determination to "take a stand against a baying cyber-mob".
The plan has been announced days after TV presenter Chloe Madeley suffered online abuse, which Mr Grayling described as "crude and degrading".
Magistrates could pass serious cases on to crown courts under the new measures.
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It needs to be accepted that physical threats should not fall under the 'freedom of speech' umbrella”
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Mr Grayling told the newspaper: "These internet trolls are cowards who are poisoning our national life.
"No-one would permit such venom in person, so there should be no place for it on social media. That is why we are determined to quadruple the current six-month sentence."
Miss Madeley received threats after defending her mother Judy Finnigan's comments on a rape committed by footballer Ched Evans, which she said was "non-violent" and did not cause "bodily harm".
Richard Madeley has said "prosecution awaits" those who sent "sick rape threats" to his daughter.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Chloe Madeley received threats from internet trolls last week
The justice secretary said: "As the terrible case of Chloe Madeley showed last week, people are being abused online in the most crude and degrading fashion.
"This is a law to combat cruelty - and marks our determination to take a stand against a baying cyber-mob.
"We must send out a clear message: if you troll you risk being behind bars for two years."
Miss Madeley told the Mail on Sunday she agreed with the new proposals to update the 10-year-old law.
"It needs to be accepted that physical threats should not fall under the 'freedom of speech' umbrella," she said.
"It should be seen as online terrorism and it should be illegal."
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Dr Claire Hardaker, an expert in online aggression from Lancaster University, said proving the intent of a threat on the internet was difficult for police.
"It's like your mum sending you a text saying 'I'm going to kill you' because maybe you forgot to bring something that she asked you to bring, versus somebody on the internet saying 'I'm going to kill you'," she said.
"You have to know the intent of the two different people, and to know the intent of the stranger on the internet you've got to be able to read their mind.
"Proving intent, proving that they really meant it, that they had the means to carry it out, it's very difficult."
Those who subject others to sexually offensive, verbally abusive or threatening material online are currently prosecuted in magistrates' courts under the Malicious Communications Act, with a maximum prison sentence of six months.
More serious cases could go to crown court under the proposals, where the maximum sentence would be extended.
The law change is to be made as an amendment to the Criminal Justice and Courts Bill going through Parliament.
The new measures would also give police more time to collect enough evidence to enable successful prosecutions to be brought.
Mr Grayling had announced earlier this month that the bill would also have an amendment dealing with so-called "revenge porn", with those posting such images on the internet facing two years in jail.

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Post  sunderpitt on 2014-10-19, 10:33 am

I had not visited Not606 for awhile, I went on last week (when the Internationals were on and only O/T threads were evident) and I said as much and I was slaughtered. The invective was something to behold and all I really said is put o/t in a general board no a football one. I shall probably look in on not606 even less. This board for chat and SMB RTG for other football stuff.

Now I (and the domestic manager) never left our kids in a house alone when we were on holiday...but one o/t thread about the McCanns went far to far...so yes keyboard anonymity has a number of pitfall. It is easy to go too overboard with nasty comments and it can become a habit and yes I reckon just as with stalking or malicious letters etc. those who post/send them should be held to account.
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Post  cyprussyd on 2014-10-19, 11:11 am

sunderpitt wrote:I had not visited Not606 for awhile, I went on last week (when the Internationals were on and only O/T threads were evident) and I said as much and I was slaughtered. The invective was something to behold and all I really said is put o/t in a general board no a football one. I shall probably look in on not606 even less. This board for chat and SMB RTG for other football stuff.

Now I (and the domestic manager) never left our kids in a house alone when we were on holiday...but one o/t thread about the McCanns went far to far...so yes keyboard anonymity has a number of pitfall. It is easy to go too overboard with nasty comments and it can become a habit and yes I reckon just as with stalking or malicious letters etc. those who post/send them should be held to account.
Despite what many may think the f*ck off, you are an arse hole, go f*ck yourself alough rarley needed does not annoy or upset me.

However, I hope your wife, sister, daughter is raped, I hope someone kills you, your son, daughter grandson is ugly are a few examples off what I do get annoyed about and crosses the line, BTW I had all 3 when a mod on not606 from general chat

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Post  Vincemac on 2014-10-19, 11:18 am

Although I have I don't often swear in print.there realy is no need for persistent swearing
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Post  canary-dave on 2014-10-19, 12:04 pm

Syd, I wish you were still supermod over there, I fell out with the two supermods over there a few weeks back, defending a very good friend who was being bullied and abused by one of them, I think he must have been pissed because he went back and deleted his posts, so he obviously knew he'd overstepped the mark!

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Post  Guest on 2014-10-19, 6:13 pm

Easy solution to all this is to stop the anonymity as people will be far less vocal shall we say if their real name is at the end of a post.
As for the supermods on not606 the less said the better.
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Post  Nostalgic on 2014-10-19, 9:58 pm

Was warned not to sign up for facebook or twitter by a mate who told stories of how his grandchildren and others conducted themselves on them. He did tackle one but was only told "everyone does that, its only banter".

Tinternet rules the world but those two are poisoning it for the younger generations.
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Post  MrRAWhite on 2014-10-20, 12:13 am

Looks like not606 are having a massive change in direction, with all nude images being banned as well................The GC forum on there is a disgrace to be honest, and some of the posters need bringing into line..

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Post  Guest on 2014-10-25, 12:36 pm

Have not been on 606, since I came onto this forum, and have never regretted it, I never fall out with anyone on this site, but on the other one I found myself getting dragged in on a regular basis, my own fault really, but would I be sorry to see 606 go down the pan,,,,,er NO.
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